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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:58 pm 
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To the media the words strike and union are dirtier than paedophile or, possibly, immigrant.


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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:50 pm 
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Spoke with a senior regional PCT lady earlier today, who reckoned that these bursary midwifery training placements have become pure gold dust, with huge demand. Quite possibly the same younger female students who voted Clegg in, deceived into thinking he'd be reasonable on tuition fees.

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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:04 am 
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Another PFI triumph.

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An NHS hospital trust has been formally warned it could be declared bust - in the first case of its kind.

South London Healthcare, a merger of three hospital trusts, had a £69m debt at the start of the financial year.

The health secretary has told the trust an administrator could be brought in within weeks. The trust could be dissolved and some services closed.

A spokesman for the trust reassured patients that services would be run "as normal" until a decision was made.

The trust amalgamated the Princess Royal University Hospital in Orpington, Queen Mary's Hospital in Sidcup, and the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Woolwich in 2009.

When the three hospitals became one organisation they inherited a large debt - mainly from the private finance initiative (PFI) that had been used for the buildings at Orpington and Woolwich.

In recent years, the deficit has got worse - it reached 2012 with £69m of debt on a turnover of just over £424m.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18584968

There's a bizarre quote in there from the BBC's health correspondent, as well.

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The effect will be felt across the health service - and while that may be welcomed by health economists, it will undoubtedly cause dismay to some patients.


Fucking 'health economists'? Get bent.

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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:26 am 
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What happens if the trust tells the companies it owes money to through PFI to shove the debt up their arses? And don't the government have access to billions at the drop of a hat for bailouts?

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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:33 pm 
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What happens if the trust tells the companies it owes money to through PFI to shove the debt up their arses? And don't the government have access to billions at the drop of a hat for bailouts?


Only for the "right types", Greens, but not the Carrs - if you take my meaning.


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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:22 pm 
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Well, I thought that the government could just turn round to someone they had made a contract with and say, "Ah well we said that 4 years ago, now we're saying we can't afford it and we will belittle you in the popular press." like they did with the NHS staff?


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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:30 am 
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These PFI bombs might offer the Tories a way back.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/2 ... spital-pfi

There may well be other factors, but there are so many, there's no doubt a lot of deep shit coming.


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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:34 am 
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Because Labour would have seen this as a political problem (and political problems usually get solved, one way or another) and the Tories see it as a financial one. Which suits them fine.
It is also a symptom of a financial model which requires constant growth, which we no longer have. In a burgeoning economy this is a problem that could be solved easily.


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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
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I don't know. I'm not sure there will be any ways to get out of the contracts, or mitigate them.


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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
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I don't know. I'm not sure there will be any ways to get out of the contracts, or mitigate them.


1. Take the trust into liquidation and restart under a new debt-free company. AKA Phoenixing - see Rangers FC, but no Division 3 to be relegated to here.

2. Spread a lot of press fodder about gold plated contracts, conduct a hate campaign against "corporate welfare", then rip up the contract while baring your buttocks at the creditors.


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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
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BBC News 24 reporting that the BMA've passed a vote of no confidence in Lansley at their annual conference, and're calling on him to resign.

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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
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Breaking news on the Beeb. The BMA has held 'no confidence' vote and called on Lansley to resign - as noted by a faster typist, above. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:18 pm 
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The BBC puts the story in writing.

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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
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Course they do. Lefty scum. How dare they print facts?


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 Post subject: Re: The NHS
PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:14 am 
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And so it begins...

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The health service will need an extra £20bn a year by the end of the decade to meet patient demand and implement the Dilnot report into social care without cutting other essential services - a level of funding that means ministers should contemplate charging for the NHS and tax rises, a leading thinktank will say on Wednesday.

The Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) says in a report that England's NHS budget squeeze - with savings of £20bn up to 2015 - is already the "tightest four-year period for the last 50 years". NHS spending will be essentially flat in real terms - at about £110bn a year - until 2015.

However, with the NHS accounting for 23% of government spending, plus an ageing population, rising patient expectations and expensive new drugs on the horizon, the thinktank warns that in the last half of the decade a mixture of charging, tax rises and perhaps even greater borrowing will be needed.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/ ... ounds-2020

Just as well Lansley's pissing billions more away on a pointless restructuring neither the medical profession nor patients want, then.

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