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Would you vote for the LibDems again next time around?
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No 58%  58%  [ 43 ]
Probably 5%  5%  [ 4 ]
Probably not 28%  28%  [ 21 ]
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 Post subject: Re: LibDem voters - will you vote for them again?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:45 pm 
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So did Clegg, so he's hardly likely to sink the Healthcare Bill.


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But Cameron didn't know that.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:55 pm 
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How do you make that out? It was Orange Book policy and Clegg had agreed the Healthcare Bill. Lib Dem 'opposition' was an obvious sham and sop to the social liberals.


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It wasn't in the Coalition Agreement- no health in there at all.

Clegg should have said "you know I agree, but I've got all these social liberals, you see"

Plenty of time to bring it in later. But Clegg would have got more of what seems to be his only policy the Tories don't really care for- raising the income tax threshold.


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Whitehall cleaners ask 'socialist' Vince Cable for a living wage - piss off, says Vince.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2012/ju ... -ministers

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:38 pm 
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Oh joy. An interview with David Laws.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/peopl ... 22527.html

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"I am not a Tory because I am a small 'l' liberal. Which means liberal economically – which I think most Conservatives are – but also liberal in terms of personal life … most importantly, a social as well as economic liberal, believing that the state has to intervene to ensure not only protection for people in the bottom of society, but that there are strong ladders for those people to do better and improve themselves."


So liberal Tory then.

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"We are in danger, in Western nations, of getting a sort of caste-like society where it's actually more difficult than it was a number of decades ago for people who are born into disadvantaged backgrounds and households to do well in life. We have got to challenge [that] even in these tough economic times."


Of course, this wouldn't have anything to do with the sort of economics you advocate would it, would it? And nice bit of "Western nations" bollocks:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010 ... l-mobility

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Today's scandal could be "dangerous" for Ed Miliband and Ed Balls because "it reminds people that the origins of a lot of our problems were in the period when Labour was in office".


Yawn, yawn, under their watch. I think they might just about manage to chuck it back at you and your mates.

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He is "certain" Clegg will lead the party into the next election, describing him as a "man of integrity" and a "massive asset" for the 2015 election.


Satirically intended, right?


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Austerity Britain:

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As the Cabinet Office revealed yesterday, Nick Clegg now employs 14 special advisers at a cost of nearly £900,000 a year. (George Osborne, conversely, gets by with just four). The list below names them and their salaries, where they exceed £58,200.

There are good arguments for increasing the number of spads, as the coalition has done. In a misguided attempt to display its thriftiness, the government initially employed just 69. It now employs a far more sensible 81. Clegg, in particular, had a strong case for more support. As the Institute for Government noted back in September 2010, his office was under-resourced compared with those of other cabinet ministers and threatened to be overwhelmed by government business.

But it would be remiss not to note that Clegg's spads, employed to give political advice on policies and media, have failed to halt the slide in his approval ratings. The most recent YouGov/Sunday Times poll found that approval with Clegg had reached a new low of -59, down from a heady +53 in the halcyon days of May 2010.


Money well spent. I did enjoy the accompanying graph though.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:14 pm 
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Oh, and David 'gizza job' Laws has been cosying up to his Tory mates again. A truly nauseating individual. This says it all:

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Michael Gove is proving to be one of the best education secretaries of the past 50 years – his programme of higher aspirations, rigorous standards, more school autonomy and effective accountability must continue.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... ourse.html

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 Post subject: Re: LibDem voters - will you vote for them again?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:28 pm 
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Laws was education spokesman at the 2010 election. So by praising Gove he's effectively saying he was shit himself.

That Clegg graph doesn't exactly scream "massive asset" at me.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:34 pm 
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That Clegg graph doesn't exactly scream "massive asset" at me.


Oh, I dunno. If you bear in mind that in Mail-ese, "assets" means great big tits, it makes perfect sense.

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What's wrong with being sexy?

Oh, sexist.


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 Post subject: Re: LibDem voters - will you vote for them again?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:31 pm 
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Desperate stuff from Clegg. Does he really think he's going to survive past the next election?

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Nick Clegg's declaration this weekend that he would be prepared to form a coalition with Labour after the next election was significant because it was at odds with much of what he's previously said on the subject. In a speech in May 2011, for instance, Clegg rebuked those in party, most notably Vince Cable and Chris Huhne, who talk up the possibility of a future alliance with Labour. He said:

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There are still those who dream of a so-called ‘progressive alliance’, forgetting that Labour had 13 years to make some moves in that direction and never quite seemed to get around to it until, in desperation, they tried to cling to power last year.


But asked by the People if he could do business with Ed Miliband, Clegg replied: "Yes. If the British people said that the only combination which could work would be those two parties, in the same way as after the last election the only combination which could work was Conservatives and Liberal Democrats, it would be obvious that Liberal Democrats would need to do their duty."


Luckily Miliband has pretty much closed the door.

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Invited to return the compliment, Miliband, however, has declined. It was in an interview with the New Statesman in August 2010 that the Labour leader first indicated that Clegg's resignation would be a precondition of any deal with the Lib Dems, and nothing since has changed his mind. He told today's Independent that he would find it "difficult to work with" Clegg, an "accomplice" to the Tories. Though his language is more ambiguous than on other occasions, the message remains that Clegg's head is the price of any deal.


http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/polit ... -coalition

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:41 pm 
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It would actually be very funny if Labour and Tory did a grand coalition just to fuck up the Lib Dems.

Vernon Bogdanor is still taking the Lib Dems seriously.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... f-comments

You might notice me on there. I've wondered why if these Orange Bookers are civil libertarians, then they aren't getting stuck into eg Gove flouting freedom of information. And I gave a dishonourable mention to Jeremy Browne on Question Time who Bogdanor presumably thinks is a principled opponent of dodgy military action.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:52 pm 
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Desperate stuff from Clegg. Does he really think he's going to survive past the next election?

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But asked by the People if he could do business with Ed Miliband, Clegg replied: "Yes. If the British people said that the only combination which could work would be those two parties, in the same way as after the last election the only combination which could work was Conservatives and Liberal Democrats, it would be obvious that Liberal Democrats would need to do their duty."



The slippery, desperate, dissembling little shite. The British people didn't decide that the only thing for it was for the Lib Dems to join up with Tories to aid and abet them in asset stripping the country's public services and fucking everything up in the process, it was Nick fucking Clegg. He's been spinning this line that he had no alternative ever since, but it's pretty obvious that he wanted to grease himself up and bend over for Cameron all along.

I hope the cunt loses his seat at the next election. Nobody deserves to more.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:06 pm 
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Indeed. His face will be a fucking picture.

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