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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1128722/Woman-gives-birth-EIGHT-babies-minutes-shes-going-breastfeed-all.html

Fairly innocuous story which has given rise to a very harsh comment:

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Some background, please. A picture of her husband and his job prospects. Is the family on State benefits or food coupons ? Was another confinement planned and if not were the usual contraception steps taken? Does the family own or rent a house, without subsidy ? Is the household confident it can raise all their children to an adequate educational standard without substantial reliance on public welfare ? Questions such as these may put the news in the necessary context.
Click to rate Rating 29- Ray Croft, Hermanus,Western Cape, SOUTH AFRICA., 27/1/2009 8:25


And one bizarre one:

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I could do that
Click to rate Rating 12- Fred, England, 27/1/2009 9:48


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Dufrain wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1128722/Woman-gives-birth-EIGHT-babies-minutes-shes-going-breastfeed-all.html

Fairly innocuous story which has given rise to a very harsh comment:

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Some background, please. A picture of her husband and his job prospects. Is the family on State benefits or food coupons ? Was another confinement planned and if not were the usual contraception steps taken? Does the family own or rent a house, without subsidy ? Is the household confident it can raise all their children to an adequate educational standard without substantial reliance on public welfare ? Questions such as these may put the news in the necessary context.
Click to rate Rating 29- Ray Croft, Hermanus,Western Cape, SOUTH AFRICA., 27/1/2009 8:25




But Ray, you're in South Africa. Why should you care about whether they're on welfare or not, seeing as you are presumably not a US taxpayer? And if you'd bothered to read the story or indeed read it on any other news sources including South African ones such as the Mail & Guardian (SA paper which states clearly that the mother requested anonymity), you'd see that the parents haven't been identified (I assume to protect them from the full glare of the media. And cocks like you)

And breathe....


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Some background, please. A picture of her husband and his job prospects. Is the family on State benefits or food coupons ? Was another confinement planned and if not were the usual contraception steps taken? Does the family own or rent a house, without subsidy ? Is the household confident it can raise all their children to an adequate educational standard without substantial reliance on public welfare ? Questions such as these may put the news in the necessary context.
Click to rate Rating 29- Ray Croft, Hermanus,Western Cape, SOUTH AFRICA., 27/1/2009 8:25


I really don't understand what he's trying to say here. :?

Is he suggesting that if eight babies were going to be a burden to the state then the mother should have done the decent thing and only given birth to one or two of the octuplets? :(


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Is he suggesting that if eight babies were going to be a burden to the state then the mother should have done the decent thing and only given birth to one or two of the octuplets? :(


Don't be so silly, he just thinks scum on benefits should die.


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Click to rate Rating 12- Fred, England, 27/1/2009 9:48


Go on, Fred, I'd pay to watch you give it ago (and have the police on standby...)


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Additional kudos to Ray Croft for being the first person since 1958 to use the term 'confinement'.


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Some background, please. A picture of her husband and his job prospects. Is the family on State benefits or food coupons ? Was another confinement planned and if not were the usual contraception steps taken? Does the family own or rent a house, without subsidy ? Is the household confident it can raise all their children to an adequate educational standard without substantial reliance on public welfare ? Questions such as these may put the news in the necessary context.
Click to rate Rating 29- Ray Croft, Hermanus,Western Cape, SOUTH AFRICA., 27/1/2009 8:25


Some background on you, Ray, please. Are you a war criminal, hoping to flee justice by living as a drug dealer in South Africa? Did you move there originally to enjoy the benefits of apartheid, but, having sold your passport for a blowjob from a transvestite, became unable to return to England? Are you selling dirty syringes to primary school children outside your local playground? Do your neighbours find you repugnant in the extreme, your house being little more than a ramshackle pile of bricks in the shape of a swastika, daubed in offensive graffiti and your own shit? Questions such as these may put your fucking stupid comment in the necessary context. You twat.


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... l-job.html


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A father massacred his five children – all aged under ten – and his wife today after being fired from his hospital job.



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The shooter and his wife were not laid off due to the economy but were fired for a cause not yet reported. We should take care to avoid calling an evil man a victim.
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- H M Hibard, Los Angeles, California USA, 28/1/2009 2:52



The mail's angle is the "credit crunch" so...


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The lesson of the thirties depression hasn't been learned.

Its not the bankers that need the bailout but the people. Until the governments abandon the trickle down attitude to money, hopelessness, fear and senseless acts of desperation will flourish.
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- Andy M, Wrexham Wales, 27/1/2009 22:36


Yeah, thanks for that Andy.


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Disgraced MP Derek Conway ordered to give back £3,757 taxpayer cash wrongly paid to son

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Well fancy that! Only 4 comments for a Tory tea leaf. How many would there be for a BBC story about how they spend licence fee money ?


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Great bright hope to end battle of the light bulbs

It's in the Mail science section so you know it's gonna be badly written.

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Despite being smaller than a penny, they are 12 times more efficient than conventional tungsten bulbs and three times more efficient than the unpopular fluorescent low-energy versions.

There is a world outside Mail readers you know. 57 million of us to be specific.

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Even better, the bulbs fully illuminate instantly, unlike the current generation of eco-bulbs.

My low power bulb comes on instantly.

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The Daily Mail revealed earlier this month that in the switchover to eco-bulbs, shops had stopped replenishing stocks of the traditional 100-watt incandescent version.

The Daily Mail scared the shit out of it's readers by making out that low power bulbs will explode with the power of a nuclear bomb if smashed. And then reported the unsurprising news that it's readers were dumb enough to actually believe it.


Anyway digs against low-power bulbs aside, the article reports that LEDs have suddenly become much cheaper to make due to the work of scientists (boo, hiss)


The rational voices of the Mail readership let forth their educated views
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All the greenie nonsense needs to be stopped now! Al Gore just made it all up to make millions! There is no such thing as Global Warming, and even if there was, the output of carbon in a country like Britain or Australia is negligible compared to the vast output of China and India. The Chinese Governmnt are smart enough to ignore the GW hysteria and are building at least one new coal-fired power station a week, which is what we should all be doing! The so-called eco-friendly light globes are a complete farce and are dangerously full of toxic mercury and proven triggers for epilepsy and migraine!

- Albert Wentworth (British Expat), Gold Coast, Australia, 29/1/2009 4:37

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"Global warming doesn't exist and even if it did we shouldn't give a fuck."
"Low light bulbs will kill you to death"
Plum.

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So. All that will happen is that Energy companies will increase their prices to claw back the "sales" they have lost. The government will ban them for some strange reason (probably due to global warming on mars). They are (apparently) safe.... So 'elf & safety will have to think up some reason for banning people from having them.

Apart from that...BRILLIANT! (Pun intended).

Oh ...and Gordon Brown will claim he invented them.

- Charles, London, 29/1/2009 6:05

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So lemme get this straight.
Brown will claim to have invented them, then he and h&s ban them, even though the government is trying to get us to use lower energy.
Was this comment generated by a automated mail-rant generator or what. And 39 people agree, even though it contradicts itself twice.

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We should be allowed to buy conventional lightbulbs until technology has improved energy-saving lightbulbs. It's ridiculous to expect us to embrace the rubbishy energy-saving bulbs which are currently on the market. They are dangerous and the light they give out is a joke.

- Barbara, Eastbourne, England, 29/1/2009 8:10

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Yes. If only energy saving bulbs had been around for a while. Say, since the 1980s.


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I did market research back in 1992 to make a bit of money before going to uni, it was for Manweb (the Welsh electricity board) and was basically promoting low-energy lightbulbs. People had to fill out a questionnaire about their electricity consumption and in return got a couple of free bulbs. I don't remember anyone complaining about the bulbs or refusing them; in fact one of them I know still works as it's in the table lamp in my parents' dining room!

Anecdotal evidence I know, but I would humbly suggest to Barbara in Eastbourne that she doesn't know what she's talking about and therefore should shut up.


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Every household to pay £20 internet piracy tax as Government announces 'broadband for all' plan

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... l#comments

Tax AND Big Brother in one story, creampie for commenters.

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More rubbish from Gordon browns Crowny's.....

Sorry I think this is crap !
Click to rate Rating 512 - MickyTek, London, 29/1/2009 8:36


I agree, your spelling and grammar is rather crap.


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There was something in the Metro yesterday about them, and I failed to see what was newsworthy about it. Particularly now rather than any other time.

There's a music venue in Oxford that was refitted recently and that's got LED lighting. It's definitely noticeably different to the old style ones, but it does great atmospheric lighting. It won't work for directed spotlighting, but it does great. And it has the great benefit of not being stupidly hot!


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a nugget of knowledge from littlejohns rant today:

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It's not so long ago, before the birth of the Unsocial Services that if parents were unable or incapable of bringing up their children, the grandperents automatically stepped in and raised them, and everyone accepted it as the norm. But not today where government busybodies stick theire noses in where they are not wanted, but seem to be sadly missing where they should be.
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ok, bullshit.
"not so long ago" if a child was born outside of wedlock (as would be true in this case) and its parents were unable to look after it (or they died) the child would be immediately placed into care without the slightest consideration of any of its relatives young or old. this is the exact reason my parents got married (they had no interest in doing so otherwise), at the time of my oldest siblings birth (79) if they had both died it wouldn't matter who they had marked down as "next of kin" the child would have just been taken into care.
oh for the good old days, when single mums, unwed couples and "bastard" children were automatically treated as lesser people. i always thought that state services treating people on a case by case basis and not making sweeping judgements about them just because of who or what they are was progress.
shows what i know.


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Being raised by your grandparents isn't all werther's originals either. There's clearly a trade off between being brought up within your existing family network and being potentially deprived of the benefits of having parents of more conventional parenting age. Not to mention being exposed to the possibility of both your carers getting sick and dying while you are still very young. This is something that social workers are trained to consider.

Interesting that if a woman in her late 40s/early 50s gets pregnant (either naturally as does happen occasionally or through IVF) the DM takes a very dim view of it.


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