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:sunglasses: 49.2 % ❤ 3.6 % :thumbsup: 9.3 % 😯 3.3 % :grinning: 25.1 % 🧥 1.1 % 🙏 1.1 % 😟 4.1 % :cry: 2.9 % :shit: 0.3 %
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By Tubby Isaacs
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The Brexiter who lost Leave voting Peterborough to Fiona Onasanya is now dispensing wisdom at the Telegraph on behalf of Johnson.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... -dont-get/

Sadly, it's paywalled, but the headline is, as you'd expect, sharply focussed on practical issues.
Boris's enthusiasm is the perfect antidote to the patrician Tories who don't get what makes their party tick
I think I recall this sort of rubbish being chucked at "defeatist" Ken Clarke by people who thought IDS was a fountain of dynamic ideas.
 
By Malcolm Armsteen
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A remarkable story in the Mail tomorrow:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... rench.html
BBC censored Boris's insult to the French: Would-be PM called nation 'turds' over Brexit in documentary when he was Foreign Secretary – but producers axed jibe amid diplomatic pressure
Mr Johnson made the 'French turds' jibe during a three-part documentary about the Foreign Office broadcast on BBC2 in November.

By the time it was shown he had resigned as foreign secretary in protest at Theresa May's Brexit policy outlined at Chequers.

Since she was still trying to win concessions from the EU, the Foreign Office panicked when it was told the BBC planned to broadcast Mr Johnson's offensive comment.

In bizarre secret 'negotiations', officials begged the corporation to censor it. Diplomats were also worried about another attack by the former London mayor on the French in the film in which he accused them of 'shafting Britain'.

The BBC initially stood firm, telling the Foreign Office they planned to broadcast both remarks on the grounds that it was an accurate and fair portrayal of Mr Johnson at work.

The Foreign Office countered that Mr Johnson's comment could cause 'significant damage' to Britain. They said it made a mockery of the Government's aim – in agreeing to the documentary – to 'promote Global Britain to a UK audience'.

In the end the BBC agreed to remove Mr Johnson's 'French turds' remark but kept his 'shafted' comment in the programme.
The disclosure of the way Mr Johnson's 'French turds' comment was kept quiet will also raise questions about the independence of the BBC. A BBC spokesman said: 'The programme set out to reflect the realities of life inside the Foreign Office, the production team made judgements about what was in the programme and they are satisfied that the programme achieves its ambitions and has the content they wanted.'

Mr Johnson's critics will see the episode as further evidence of his unsuitability to be prime minister. His supporters may counter that his provocative remarks are part of his appeal.
 
By Tubby Isaacs
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Fun old essay by Ian Gilmour on the 2005 Tory leadership. This is what I was thinking of up there.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/v27/n20/ian-gilmo ... -the-beast

The bits I was thinking of:
In 1997, liberally quoting Archer, the Times had come down in favour of Hague, and in 2001 it announced that Duncan Smith ‘is a better choice this time’. In a long dissertation the Daily Telegraph, whose editor was then Charles Moore, told its readers that Duncan Smith saw things with ‘the eyes of a voter’ and had a better ‘estimation of the huge scale of the Tory task’ than Clarke did. Moreover, he had ‘a more thoughtful analysis of what has gone wrong’ and was ‘the candidate of the future’.
Having been so wrong in 2001, our right-wing experts might have confessed as much to their readers before trumpeting their opinions about 2005. Indeed they might have had the grace to say nothing at all about the leadership, or at least to issue a health warning because of their previous errors. I am not an assiduous reader, but I have not seen any confessions of past errors in their columns. Charles Moore, for instance, who was so effusive about the virtues of Duncan Smith and so dismissive of Clarke, is still dismissive of Clarke. Lately he has told us that the trouble with Clarke is that he has not had a new idea for twenty years. When, I wonder, did Mr Moore last have a new idea?
 
By Big Arnold
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Mr Johnson's critics will see the episode as further evidence of his unsuitability to be prime minister. His supporters may counter that his provocative remarks are part of his appeal.
Appeal to who? Outside the UK, I can only think of Putin, Trump, and Bannon.
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By Big Arnold
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There is certainly room for debate about Boris Johnson as prime minister. But he possesses a number of remarkable qualities considerably beyond the talents Hastings accords him as an entertainer and a clown. He was such an effective correspondent for us in Brussels that he greatly influenced British opinion on this country’s relations with Europe.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/06/max ... rust-more/

No argument there, but what he reported was total nonsense as I think he conceded.
 
By Big Arnold
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Good news.
Johnson popularity plummets in Tory leadership race as Hunt gathers momentum - shock poll

BORIS JOHNSON has seen his surge in the Tory leadership race shunted after a shock new poll revealed Jeremy Hunt would be the public’s preferred prime minister
Bad news.
The public don't have a vote.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... s-hustings
 
By davidjay
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Big Arnold wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:58 am
There is certainly room for debate about Boris Johnson as prime minister. But he possesses a number of remarkable qualities considerably beyond the talents Hastings accords him as an entertainer and a clown. He was such an effective correspondent for us in Brussels that he greatly influenced British opinion on this country’s relations with Europe.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/06/max ... rust-more/

No argument there, but what he reported was total nonsense as I think he conceded.
Calling that piece total nonsense would be a kindness.
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