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By mr angry manchester
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Theres also a long tunnel planned at the Manchester end, running from near the airport to a point on the eastern approach to Manchester Piccadilly. They have even responded to complaints from West Gorton and agreed to tunnel under it.
 
By bluebellnutter
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The "upgrading other lines" idea is ridiculous, as anyone who followed the utter shambles that was the WCML upgrade a decade ago will realise. Enormous disruption, including the total rebuilding of Rugby station three times in the space of five years as plans changed, massive bus replacements and diversions and cost roughly 2/3 of the budget for HS2.

Result? A line with massive problems with power supply and which postponed the capacity of the line being reached from roughly 2012 to 2019.
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By Big Arnold
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Transport secretary's Crossrail 2 backing provokes anger outside London

Chris Grayling’s support for rail line prompts claims that government has abandoned ambitions to rebalance economy


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By bluebellnutter
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TBH Crossrail 2 is badly needed but alongside the other rail improvements which were planned. I know London is often begrudged spending but it is badly needed.

It does also mean this awesome thing is still on the cards - https://www.indy100.com/article/the-tub ... lkQCQSrLEg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
By bluebellnutter
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But London is considerably larger than anywhere else in the UK, has more people and generates more wealth. That's why a lot of money is spent there.
 
By Big Arnold
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Banning petrol and diesel cars by 2040. Typical Tory gimmick, trying to claim credit for something that market forces will probably achieve by 2030 or even earlier. From drawing board to showroom is about five years, and who is going to manufacture new cars that can never be sold?
And it's going to have to come up with some way of reducing pollution long before then.
 
By Bones McCoy
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Arnold wrote:Banning petrol and diesel cars by 2040. Typical Tory gimmick, trying to claim credit for something that market forces will probably achieve by 2030 or even earlier. From drawing board to showroom is about five years, and who is going to manufacture new cars that can never be sold?
And it's going to have to come up with some way of reducing pollution long before then.
The BBC pointed out this morning; this is getting all the headlines (Promises that somebody else will deliver), and distracting from the government being in breach of a court order to cut pollution now.

But Judges eh!! Saboteurs more like!!!
By satnav
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The announcement on banning diesel and petrol cars seems to have been well co-ordinated with the announcement by BMW that they were planning to produce electric cars in the UK. I wonder what financial inducements BMW were offered to encourage them to commit to the UK after Brexit.
 
By youngian
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I wonder what financial inducements BMW were offered to encourage them to commit to the UK after Brexit.

None as Cowley's Mini factory is now just an assembly line with engines (new electric ones replacing petrol one) now made in Germany instead of the UK. BMW have only made a four year commitment to Cowley instead of its usual seven cycle. I thought this was a rare welcome piece of good news until you scratch the surface.
 
By youngian
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That's business it mutates and changes. Oil prices have been falling and that has geopolitical implications on the relative power of OPEC and Russia. There's rare metals like cobalt going into batteries. How secure and plentiful are these supplies going to run a billion electric cars?
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