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By mr angry manchester
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#521806
What Matto said +1

The leadership contest will be a massive fight, anyone think a Tory remainer dares have a go? Whatever happens we will get a more hardline Brexit merchant, presumably either Johnson or Mogg, who will go into full on "no deal" mode.
 
By bluebellnutter
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A Remainer could stand on the basis of "Grow the fuck up, withdraw Article 50 and sort our own issues out before we go back into it". It might not work within the party but the electorate might think "yeah, actually, they have a point, why are they fucking about some more?"
 
By youngian
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#521814
The Tories are defending 67 seats with less than 5% swing and 44 under 3%. Most of them are not going to back Mogg for leader.
By mr angry manchester
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#521816
Most sensible people, Tory or otherwise, wouldn't want Mogg as leader, the thing is though, the Tories have retreated into their core support, which means loons, and they will lap him up.
 
By youngian
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I suppose so 316 minus 67 is still a lot of loons. I'll go to the Tory thread for some new polling on May's alternatives.
 
By Tubby Isaacs
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#521830
I'm not sure those marginals are going to fancy PM Jez either.

See how the Tories, despite the farce, are holding on to their 40% support.
 
By Andy McDandy
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#521831
Was watching a thing on the Russian revolution last night. Thing that struck me was that to get into power you don't have to be the most popular or the most credible, or even have a plan. You just have to appear to be the least worst option.
 
By Tubby Isaacs
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Nowadays, John Redwood would have been very competitive v Major. In those days, the moderate MPs could shut down any loon candidate. Now, there's no rump of moderates, and a loon has only to make the run off, where the Brexit pensioner members take over.
 
By Tubby Isaacs
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Jez and Starmer aren't exactly busting their guts to force the release of these likely very damning assessments of Brexit, are they?

Jez doesn't give a fuck, but Starmer is supposed to be a smart lawyerly operator. Shouldn't he be all over this?
 
By youngian
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Andy McDandy wrote:Was watching a thing on the Russian revolution last night. Thing that struck me was that to get into power you don't have to be the most popular or the most credible, or even have a plan. You just have to appear to be the least worst option.


That didn't pass me by either any old fool in a Lenin cap at the right time in the right place can hit the jackpot. I am becoming concerned that I keep seeing Brexit comparisons in programmes about historical tragedies. Or maybe I'm watching a lot to find a pattern of insanity at the top throughout the ages.

I liked Lenin's fake news move; tell the crowds the government has fallen before you've deposed them.
 
By cycloon
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Andy McDandy wrote:Was watching a thing on the Russian revolution last night. Thing that struck me was that to get into power you don't have to be the most popular or the most credible, or even have a plan. You just have to appear to be the least worst option.
That suggests most people had credible options at all.
 
By The Red Arrow
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#521895
SLATUKIP‏ @SLATUKIP

BBC News just now. Corbyn has said "If the referendum was today he would still vote remain".
6:53 am - 12 Oct 2017
 
By bluebellnutter
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#521897
He also said he wouldn't back a second referendum. So he can wave goodbye to those Remainer votes.
 
By youngian
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#521901
He could always back a first referendum on the real deal. Calling for another go straight after the first referendum never looked politically tenable and you usually get the same answer unless the dust has settled and the landscape changed.
 
By Tubby Isaacs
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#521910
I'm not too fussed with what he's said here. Not enough people realize it's going to be shit yet.

But they do need to be really hitting at getting those assessments and the Article 50 legal advice released. Starmer could be doing more there.
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