[Tubby Isaacs]

Reckon that's an outlier.

[Arrowhead]

Reckon that's an outlier.

Agreed. Those numbers would make a bit more sense if, for example, the Lib Dem’s had been the main beneficiaries of the Labour dip. But the Tories? Nah, not buying it one iota.

[visage]

Political editor of the Guardian has posted this article:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ntre-group

[Boiler]

SDP 2.0?

Oh, that'll be lovely. Another guaranteed generation in the wilderness for the Labour movement.

[visage]

We have that right now. Things can only get better, to coin a phrase....

[Boiler]

Have you forgotten 83/87?

[mattomac]

Better waiting for Brexit if your going quit anyhow.

Actually I would happily see the party engage in a leadership election now, It would push Corbyn out from behind some fictional long game and he isn't adding much to the debate anyhow.

I think that poll is a bit of an outlier as well.

[visage]

Interesting idea. If a significant %age of the party electorate said 'oppose brexit or we'll vote for someone that will', would Jezza change his stance. Or, more realistically, would Milne tell him to do so?

[Timbo]

Oh, please. Nothing pleases these people more than a chance to wave off the unfaithful.

[youngian]

Where would Labour be now in the polls if they followed Margaret Beckett's journey? Respected the will of her constituents by triggering A50, carefully analysed the progress of the talks and now comes to a somewhat different conclusion based on reality

[youngian]

Didn't think this hand grenade would be lobbed. I can't see a party with seven MPs is going to make much impact.

[davidjay]

Didn't think this hand grenade would be lobbed. I can't see a party with seven MPs is going to make much impact.

A party with a couple of hundred candidates in a general election will make a very big impact, and not in a good way. Well done, Wino and your mates - you've got what you wanted. Now let's see how well your new, purified Labour party does.

[crabcakes_windermere]

Didn't think this hand grenade would be lobbed. I can't see a party with seven MPs is going to make much impact.

Just 2 Tory MPs defecting to UKIP dragged that party far more to the right. If May loses a few Tory MPs to the group - and it has been cleverly labelled in that sense, as it is not just 'another Labour party' or indeed a party at all - then she could start to shift towards their aims to prevent further defections.

Corbyn I suspect will go the other way - spurred on by forcing out some, his more rabid supporters will push more and more MPs hard to sign up with unwavering loyalty or leave. And they're out before the guilt by association of Brexit occurs.

[Winegums]

Didn't think this hand grenade would be lobbed. I can't see a party with seven MPs is going to make much impact.

A party with a couple of hundred candidates in a general election will make a very big impact, and not in a good way. Well done, Wino and your mates - you've got what you wanted. Now let's see how well your new, purified Labour party does.

I am actually screaming. That press conference was 20 minutes of free comedy. Angela Smith literally stood up and said "we're asking the public to tell us what they want us to stand for". Never before has a group of MPs been so dead in the water.

[davidjay]

Didn't think this hand grenade would be lobbed. I can't see a party with seven MPs is going to make much impact.

A party with a couple of hundred candidates in a general election will make a very big impact, and not in a good way. Well done, Wino and your mates - you've got what you wanted. Now let's see how well your new, purified Labour party does.

I am actually screaming. That press conference was 20 minutes of free comedy. Angela Smith literally stood up and said "we're asking the public to tell us what they want us to stand for". Never before has a group of MPs been so dead in the water.

Labour under its current leadership. And while I have your attention, how about that bet I offered you?