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Re: Labour, Generally.

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:16 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Somebody suggested Brexit wasn't one of the initial prompts in that poll. That would understate the Brexit score.

Re: Labour, Generally.

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:28 pm
by Arrowhead
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:16 pm
Somebody suggested Brexit wasn't one of the initial prompts in that poll. That would understate the Brexit score.
That seems to be the case, i.e. Farage's mob are underrepresented because, for whatever reason, this particular polling organisation chose not list them as a choice alongside the more established parties. A peculiar decision, since they topped a nationwide election only a few short weeks ago in May.

I'm not for a minute suggesting that things aren't a bit grim for Labour right now, but it certainly doesn't feel like the Tories are quite that far ahead, or anything like to be honest.

Re: Labour, Generally.

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:20 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
A Jewish Voice for Labour genius speaks.



Couple of people BTL show up and point out that Jez kept nearly all the benefit cuts.

Re: Labour, Generally.

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 2:28 pm
by Projective Unity
What was the gist as it looks like the tweet disappeared

Re: Labour, Generally.

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:51 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Moaning about the electorate in Norwich who didn't care about the real issues and told her Jez was no good.

Re: Labour, Generally.

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:51 pm
by oboogie
If the LibDems don't win back Sheffield Hallam now they really need to pack up and go home.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-s ... B6SwuYvfV4

Re: Labour, Generally.

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:31 pm
by Arrowhead
oboogie wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 4:51 pm
If the LibDems don't win back Sheffield Hallam now they really need to pack up and go home.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-s ... B6SwuYvfV4
I suspect a general election will have been called before a by-election takes place in Sheffield Hallam. But either way, Labour may as well not bother turning up in this particular constituency for a few election cycles. What an absolute fiasco.

Re: Labour, Generally.

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:42 pm
by KevS
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:51 pm
Moaning about the electorate in Norwich who didn't care about the real issues and told her Jez was no good.
Hello. Member of the Norwich electorate here. Unfortunately that tweet has disappeared, so I have no idea what it said, but to be fair, I would be saying that Jez is no good

Re: Labour, Generally.

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:35 am
by visage
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Re: Labour, Generally.

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:52 am
by youngian
‘Deselect Norwich’ was among the amusing suggestions on that thread. If Corbyn’s even tanking with left-leaning middle-class voters in Norwich alarm bells should be ringing. I doubt Norwich’s traditionally strong working-class Labour vote thinks any differently about him.

Re: Labour, Generally.

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:48 am
by cycloon
'Are we out of touch?'
'No, it's the voters that are wrong!'

It may not be fun or ideal or pleasing, but this is the fucking core of electoral politics.

Re: Labour, Generally.

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:31 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Clive Lewis has been careful to keep Remainers onside in Norwich. They ought to be on to pick up Chloe Smith's seat but defections to Greens and Lib Dems might be a problem. I don't know which constituency the OP was in.

Re: Labour, Generally.

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:59 pm
by KevS
Lest we forget, Norwich was the sole location in East Anglia to vote remain. Dismissing that out of hand is foolhardy in the extreme.

Re: Labour, Generally.

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:19 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I'm sure the less well of Brexiters of Great Yarmouth and Waveney are flocking to Jez.

Re: Labour, Generally.

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 12:26 am
by davidjay
cycloon wrote:
Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:48 am
'Are we out of touch?'
'No, it's the voters that are wrong!'

It may not be fun or ideal or pleasing, but this is the fucking core of electoral politics.
And they have to be taught that we are right and they are wrong. This sounds like the depressing sort of conversation I've had more than once.