The buck either stops with him, or it doesn’t. And if it doesn’t, he still owes an apology for not vacating a role he knew he couldn’t do.
Rule number one: Never blame the electorate.Arrowhead wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:32 pmFair enough questions I suppose, but sometimes when I read those sort of sentiments I do wonder if people are in danger of forgetting who the real villains of the piece are i.e. the seething mass of braying nationalist wankers sat in the seats directly opposite the Labour benches.
If I were Sir Keir, I'd be tempted to respond by pithily pointing out that if voters had backed Labour in 2015, MP's would probably be debating traffic cone sizes right now.
This. 100% this. Had someone with a bit more nous and a bit less dogma been in charge of Labour then it is likely we'd have at the very least seen a Customs Union attached to the Withdrawal Agreement (and nothing Johnson could do to stop it as he'd have had to keep asking for extensions to prevent No Deal). This in turn could very easily have led possibly to Single Market alignment and maybe even a 2nd referendum, especially if Johnson had been seen as dragging his feet long enough by failing to pass the Withdrawal Agreement.crabcakes_windermere wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:10 pmCorbyn and his entourage couldn't tolerate the thought of him not being PM in an interim GONU. So even though there was no question of him stepping down as Labour leader it didn't happen. So the votes that were there in the last parliament for remain were wasted.
Yeah I admit it does go on a bit, but it speaks to me plus I know the guy who wrote it.
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