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By Tubby Isaacs
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It's confusing. As I understand it, he's a Corbynite who's talking about 2017 and claiming that these anti-Corbynite staffers directed money to safe seats.

By contrast, in 2019 various non-Corbynites (including MPs who lost their seats) complained that the party had spent heavily on no hope seats where Corbynites were running.

I think the 2019 allegations might have influenced the alllegations being made by this bloke about 2017. I can't recall them being made before, not least because Labour wasn't expecting to do as well as it did.
 
By Cyclist
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I'm struggling to keep up. In 2017 the Corbynites were crowing about their "victory". Now they're whining that the evil centrist Blairite red Tories deliberately caused a defeat? When did their "victory" become a defeat?
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By Abernathy
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Cyclist wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:36 pm
I'm struggling to keep up. In 2017 the Corbynites were crowing about their "victory". Now they're whining that the evil centrist Blairite red Tories deliberately caused a defeat? When did their "victory" become a defeat?
Rather a good point. Bit like Donald Trump saying that John Bolton's book published top secret matters of national security that were, erm, all made-up lies.
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By The Weeping Angel
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Cyclist wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:36 pm
I'm struggling to keep up. In 2017 the Corbynites were crowing about their "victory". Now they're whining that the evil centrist Blairite red Tories deliberately caused a defeat? When did their "victory" become a defeat?
When it became convenient.
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By Oblomov
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Cyclist wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:36 pm
I'm struggling to keep up. In 2017 the Corbynites were crowing about their "victory". Now they're whining that the evil centrist Blairite red Tories deliberately caused a defeat? When did their "victory" become a defeat?
I’ve seen this more about 2019 but elaboration on the sabotage has been scant aside from the anti Semitism leaks but Jezza made a dog’s dinner out of that anyway.

Does that recent Guardian article about the toxic culture in Corbyn’s Labour refute the previous “exposè” about being sabotaged by traitorous Blairites and centrist melts?
 
By Andy McDandy
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Say what you want about Jeremy Corbyn, but he did save us from the possibility of a Jeremy Corbyn government.
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By crabcakes_windermere
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:09 am
I've seen more people tweeting claims about sabotage than what the sabotage actually is.
It was when the electorate cruelly and deliberately sabotaged Corbyn’s chances of becoming PM by looking at what he was offering and not believing a word of it.
 
By youngian
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 10:09 am
I've seen more people tweeting claims about sabotage than what the sabotage actually is.
Even the press can't be arsed to report on Corbynista dolchstosslegende and spin it as a party civil war. Neither does anyone in Nuneaton or Basildon care about dastardly Blairite plots which is good news.
 
By Tubby Isaacs
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visage wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 1:13 pm
If Corbyn could have been so utterly derailed by a few people saying nasty things about him on WhatsApp, it makes you wonder how he was going to tear down capitalism and rebuild Britain as a socialist utopia....
Yep.

If some staffers aren't kicking out some old Ken fast enough, you provide leadership. You ring up old Ken and make him take one for the team.
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By crabcakes_windermere
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mattomac wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 2:27 pm
The whole report suggests to me one thing.... he hadn't got a single leadership bone in his body.
And that is what made him so special to some. A complete absence of ability mistaken for a fresh new approach.

He’s the homeopathy of politics - fuck-all real content, peddled by bullshitters and true believers alike, and surrounded by myths that certain groups are so afraid of people finding out how truly powerful and effective he is, they keep him suppressed and out of the news. But if only you’ll try it you’ll believe too!!!
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