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By youngian
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Bookmakers shorten odds on new MP Keir Starmer taking over as Labour Party leader
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This guy Sir Keir will keep the sub-editors amused
"knight to the rescue" "holding out for hero", "Is it good Knight for Cameron?" "Arise for the minimum wage"
By satnav
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Whilst I would like to see Chuka eventually get the leaders job I think at the moment he should be given the job as shadow Chancellor so that he can forge Labour's economic policy.
If Labour can't come up with a coherent economic policy it doesn't really matter who leads the party.
By GKC
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Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
GKC wrote:Thanks Malcolm and Mattomac. No idea who I'll vote for mind.
Just received this:

Soon, you’ll be able to vote for the next Leader and Deputy Leader of our party.

Below is a guide to how and when it will happen. If you have any questions not answered here, get in touch with us at the email address at the bottom and we’ll try to get back to you......


You should get the same at some point.
Yep, I just got it. Thanks Malcolm.
By GKC
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My rambling two penneth (FWIW):

The Labour party won't win an election with a message of tax the rich and give to the poor. Altruism won't win an election. In order to win Labour needs to get people to understand that ever widening equality affects everyone in a negative way. The middle-class hasn't yet woken up to the fact that it is being hollowed out by globalisation and the financialisation of anything and everything. Labour needs to get them to understand what's going on - most of the middle-class are transfixed by inflated house prices and cheap leases on BMWs. It's not an easy argument to make but Labour need to build a set of policies which moderate the excesses of corporations but don't simultaneously alienate the electorate. IMO Labour's policies for the last election weren't especially left-wing - it was the mood-music and rhetoric which put people off - "producers vs predators etc".

The next Labour leader needs to find a new way of engaging with the electorate. I don't see Cooper or Burnhan doing this. It needs to be someone from the next generation.
 
By Abernathy
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GKC wrote:My rambling two penneth (FWIW):

In order to win Labour needs to get people to understand that ever widening equality affects everyone in a negative way.
You meant ever-widening INequality - didn't you?

It's otherwise known as enlightened self-interest, or seeing the bigger picture. A very difficult task when faced with the disgusting, mendacious, and purposeful British news media not just during an election campaign, but year round.
By GKC
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Abernathy wrote:
GKC wrote:My rambling two penneth (FWIW):

In order to win Labour needs to get people to understand that ever widening equality affects everyone in a negative way.
You meant ever-widening INequality - didn't you?

It's otherwise known as enlightened self-interest, or seeing the bigger picture. A very difficult task when faced with the disgusting, mendacious, and purposeful British news media not just during an election campaign, but year round.
Yes, I did mean inequality.
By GKC
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I think that there's a real opportunity to take Piketty's work and turn it into an argument on why inequality matters and why, if not moderated, it will either turn us into a police state or a neo-feudal society. The left needs a new way to engage with the electorate.
 
By Abernathy
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GKC wrote:I think that there's a real opportunity to take Piketty's work and turn it into an argument on why inequality matters and why, if not moderated, it will either turn us into a police state or a neo-feudal society. The left needs a new way to engage with the electorate.
Well, oddly enough, I do think that Miliband tried to do exactly that. Britain only succeds when working people succeed, and all that. You cannot run the country for the benefit of a rich elite at the top.

But the message couldn't get through the "Alex Salmond will eat your children" onslaught.

Depressing, innit.
By GKC
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Abernathy wrote:
GKC wrote:I think that there's a real opportunity to take Piketty's work and turn it into an argument on why inequality matters and why, if not moderated, it will either turn us into a police state or a neo-feudal society. The left needs a new way to engage with the electorate.
Well, oddly enough, I do think that Miliband tried to do exactly that. Britain only succeds when working people succeed, and all that. You cannot run the country for the benefit of a rich elite at the top.

But the message couldn't get through the "Alex Salmond will eat your children" onslaught.

Depressing, innit.
Indeed. I'm inclined to agree that Miliband was attempting to do that. I think that it was the enlightened self-interest part which he didn't manage to get across. Maybe the takeaway is that the sales person matters as much the product - a better sales person could have broken through hostile media to connect with the public. Maybe.
By Andy McDandy
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More than anything, attack.

As Wilson said, we're a crusade or nothing. Attack, attack, attack. That's what crusaders do.

Whip the parliamentary party hard. Anything issuing from CCHQ, vote to defeat. Just because. Concentrate on the ultimate goal at all times - victory in 2020. They mention mid Staffs, you mention Hinchingbrooke. They mention Iraq, you mention Libya. They mention SNP, you mention non-doms. Or Hillsborough. Or Jimmy Saville. They pull a knife, Labour pulls a gun. They send one of ours to the cleaners, we send ten of theirs to the morgue. Etc.

Principles and soul searching are all well and good, but we've given them 4 months to set the narrative again. Back on the back foot again.
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