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What next for Labour?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 8:08 am
by Timbo
I think I'll throw my hat into the ring early and get behind Tristram Hunt, following an exceptionally bloody night of the long knives which we are certainly about to witness.

Re: What next for Labour?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 8:10 am
by The Weeping Angel
Me I'd throw it behind Chuka Umunna

Re: What next for Labour?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 8:40 am
by Daley Mayle
Littlejohn's brain wrote:Me I'd throw it behind Chuka Umunna
+1

Pity he's not a female.

Re: What next for Labour?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 8:41 am
by Esqui
Daley Mayle wrote:
Littlejohn's brain wrote:Me I'd throw it behind Chuka Umunna
+1

Pity he's not a female.
Well, Labour seem to be losing Balls so...

Re: What next for Labour?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 8:42 am
by Andy McDandy
If only for the press to skirt round the real reason they won't like him.

Re: What next for Labour?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 8:55 am
by Picklechu2
Any chance Stella Creasy might throw her hat in?

Re: What next for Labour?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 8:58 am
by Esqui
People suggesting Andy Burnham. He would be really good, I think.

Re: What next for Labour?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 8:59 am
by The Weeping Angel
No there's all that Mid-Staffs shot they'll throw at him.

Re: What next for Labour?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 9:00 am
by Andy McDandy
Five years of Mid Staffs?

Edit - LJB got in there first.

Re: What next for Labour?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 9:00 am
by Malcolm Armsteen
No chance. Liverpool accents turn voters off.

Though he's by far the best candidate, then maybe Hunt/Umunna.

Re: What next for Labour?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 9:04 am
by Safe_Timber_Man
It'd be Burnham for me. I suspect he'd also be faced with accusations of 'weak', too. He won me over at Anfield though, with his dignity and understanding.

Re: What next for Labour?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 9:07 am
by Esqui
Unfortunately it's becoming painfully clear that it'll need to be a straight white man without a regional accent.

Re: What next for Labour?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 9:08 am
by The Weeping Angel
Whatever happens we need a new leader and quick

Re: What next for Labour?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 9:19 am
by Messianic Trees
Alastair Campbell's preliminary view:
Perhaps one of the reasons we are in this position is because we took so long to elect a new leader after Gordon Brown lost in 2010 that we allowed the Tories to frame the politics surrounding the economy for the entire parliament, and we did not rebut their attacks on our overall record with sufficient clarity or vigour, nor have arguments and policies able to build a coalition of support across the centre and the left of the political spectrum. Likewise clearly whatever strategies we thought we had for dealing with the nationalist surge in Scotland, they were not adequate.

But whereas I thought we took too long to elect a leader last time, perhaps the debate about the party's future this time should be even longer. Because perhaps one of our problems is that we did not in reality have the debate that we should have had, with ourselves and with the public, from the moment Tony Blair made way for Gordon Brown.

After a result as awful as this, there has to be real deep soul-searching, and honest analysis about how and we have gone from being a party identified as the dominant force across UK politics over a decade and more, to where we are today.

These are not questions that can, or should, be answered in a hurry.

Re: What next for Labour?

Posted: Fri May 08, 2015 10:29 am
by Malcolm Armsteen
Littlejohn's brain wrote:Whatever happens we need a new leader and quick
I'd prefer it if we reflected a bit and got the right leader.