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Re: Jeremy Corbyn.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:05 pm
by visage
Its always been said that Labour have to deliver brexit - to do otherwise would betray the referendum result.

But heres the thing - even if you feel duty bound to do so, that doesnt stop you pointing out the consequences. Corbyn has not once conceded Brexit will cause job loses. He hasn't conceded it will reduce wages. He hasn't conceded that the economic damage would put Labours programme at risk. He hasn't conceded that any government overseeing brexit will be consumed by it.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:58 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Absolutely.

The arseholes have been after JK Rowling for being rude about a Momentum tweet about that apparently wretched speech, a wretched effort to avoid Brexit because "the real issues". Apparently this means Rowling doesn't care about these issues.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:14 pm
by crabcakes_windermere
It's so fucking contemptuous of the public and deceitful. It's perfectly possible to be concerned with more than 1 thing at once, especially when one thing will have a massive effect on the other.

Corbyn's current policy, however, is akin to promising to make sure people about to face a firing squad can have a flu jab, and when the nonsense of this is pointed out the reply is 'well you clearly want people to die of flu, you uncaring shit'.

I'm starting to wonder if Corbyn actually wants brexit in the knowledge that it will hit the poor the hardest as he hopes that will kick off some South American style hardcore socialist revolt. It would certainly explain why he doesn't seem to care about the fact people may actually die - all he can see is acceptable collateral for the greater socialist good. And if there's one thing he's good at, it's ignoring atrocities if he thinks in the long run the right people will get a kicking.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:35 pm
by Andy McDandy
As I've said before, he wants everyone else to run out of ideas and for him to be the last gig in town. Lenin 1917.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:46 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Andy McDandy wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:35 pm
As I've said before, he wants everyone else to run out of ideas and for him to be the last gig in town. Lenin 1917.
Point of order Lenin didn't do that he seized power in a coup.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:13 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Actually, a point of information.

And Andy is correct, by the end of 1917 assorted revolutionary groups had either dissipated, emigrated or joined the Bolsheviks.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:00 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
All right, quite something that Luciana Berger couldn't back a Corbyn government. But wasn't she right that there wasn't much enthusiasm for a general election?

Some ex-Corbyn advisor called Steve Howell has hit back with the old "tell that to the people who...". Yeah, that's just the same thing.

Howell's also been pushing Jez negotiating a better deal on Sky News. Because he supports Labour rights and the environment, they pony up that "jobs first Brexit".

Re: Jeremy Corbyn.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:17 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:00 pm
All right, quite something that Luciana Berger couldn't back a Corbyn government. But wasn't she right that there wasn't much enthusiasm for a general election?

Some ex-Corbyn advisor called Steve Howell has hit back with the old "tell that to the people who...". Yeah, that's just the same thing.

Howell's also been pushing Jez negotiating a better deal on Sky News. Because he supports Labour rights and the environment, they pony up that "jobs first Brexit".
The only enthusiasm for a general election is from Corbyn and co, but Berger shouldn't have said that.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:37 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I was speaking today to somebody right at the benefits sharp end. He doesn't seem to expect a general election, and isn't voting for Corbyn if one shows up, like he didn't last time.

In other news. WTF?


Re: Jeremy Corbyn.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:41 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Calling for a general election passes as a policy these days.


Re: Jeremy Corbyn.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:45 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:37 pm
I was speaking today to somebody right at the benefits sharp end. He doesn't seem to expect a general election, and isn't voting for Corbyn if one shows up, like he didn't last time.

In other news. WTF?

He's got a PHD you know*

*allegedly

Re: Jeremy Corbyn.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:56 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:41 pm
Calling for a general election passes as a policy these days.

Hasn't it occurred to them that Labour might lose a GE?

Re: Jeremy Corbyn.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:31 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Yeah but it's guaranteed Labour pick up 20 points in a campaign.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:27 am
by The Weeping Angel
Twitter exchange I'm having with a Corbynista



Apparently people at the sharp end can't afford to care about Brexit.

Re: Jeremy Corbyn.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:40 am
by Tubby Isaacs
"For many things are already bad". Great argument that one.