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By youngian
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I still don't get what Andrew Murray brings to Labour.

A copy of the Morning Star and his kids to fill vacancies. He's part of Jez's ideologically pure kitchen cabinet to ensure he doesn't sell out the proletariat to Blairite neoliberals.
 
By Bones McCoy
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The Weeping Angel wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:03 pm
Andrew Murray's appointment should be a scandal IMO. The man is a Stalinist whose views have no place in Labour.
He has a lot of Tennis medals though.
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By The Weeping Angel
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Mind you Murray's not the only odious aristo-stalinist in Corbyn's kitchen cabinet.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/09/do ... stalinist/
But the rise of Corbyn means that Milne is arguably now one of the most influential people in Britain: In 2017, he left the Guardian to work full time as Corbyn’s executive director of strategy and communications.

Like many of the West’s most esteemed would-be revolutionaries, Milne emerged from the very top of the social pyramid. The son of the former director-general of the BBC, Alasdair Milne, the young Milne attended Winchester College before studying philosophy, politics, and economics at the University of Oxford. According to the late Guardian editor Peter Preston, Milne is “extremely clever in a Winchester and Oxbridge way.” (Amid Britain’s tiny elite, the private school you went to is often seen as marking your character; one Conservative member of Parliament recently criticized another MP in the House of Commons for being a “typical Wykehamist,” a Winchester graduate.)

Milne has been praised from across the political spectrum for the courteousness and professionalism he displayed during his time as comment editor of the Guardian, which he edited between 2001 and 2007. Daniel Hannan, a Conservative member of the European Parliament, described the paper’s comment pages under Milne’s tutelage as “the most thought-provoking opinion section in Britain.” To be sure, Milne’s stint as comment chief was not without controversy. In 2004, Milne ran a comment piece by al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, assembled from his published speeches, provoking criticism from various quarters. Yet the decision to run the piece was reportedly backed by most of the Guardian’s editorial team as well as its readers’ editor.
 
By Boiler
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davidjay wrote:
Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:02 pm
I thought the idea of populist as that it was supposed to be popular, not appeal to a handful of conspiracy theorists.
If I like it and everyone else does, it's popular.

If I don't like it but everyone else does, it's populist.

Have I got that right?
By randomelement
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It's the tone of his tweet that seems to show the wrong optics, not being we shouldn't extridite Assange because of international law issues, but we shouldn't extridite the brave Mr Assange to the hands of the Evil Empire for all the work he has done.
Maybe I'm reading too much into the tweet. Also the case is very complicated and can't really be summaried in a single tweet, although, again it seems it's about as far as Corbyn has thought about it.
 
By crabcakes_windermere
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randomelement wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:21 am
It's the tone of his tweet that seems to show the wrong optics, not being we shouldn't extridite Assange because of international law issues, but we shouldn't extridite the brave Mr Assange to the hands of the Evil Empire for all the work he has done.
Maybe I'm reading too much into the tweet.
No, I think that's *exactly* it. He saw an opportunity to have a pop at the US and wail on about his favourite topics, and that won out over concerns such as Assange being a Putin stooge (if indeed that even was a concern), his clear right-wing tendencies and his pro-Trump actions. Oh, and the small matter of the fact he's been playing gollum for 7 years because he's running away from a rape charge.

It's idiotically poorly thought out, but he couldn't resist and never will be able to resist. This is the Corbyn who did this: https://medium.com/@twlldun/the-right-s ... 2228da346f, and 35 years later he's the exact same, simplistic, vain man. He's learned nothing about the bigger picture, about taking into account the feelings of others. Nothing. Saying nothing would have been better, but he had to say something otherwise how else would we all know what a fabulous socialist he is? It's nothing more than a very particular type of left-wing virtue signalling.

This is precisely why his antisemitism 'action' rings so hollow. He will always, ALWAYS do the thing that you would expect the most stereotypical, right-on hard left socialist concerned primarily about looking like they're doing the right thing to do. And if that means giving people shovelfuls of benefit of the doubt if what they said or did can in any way be construed as an attack on Israel, no matter how tenuous or feeble, then he'll do it. Which is why his actions don't match his words on that, or things like Syria.

It's like a form of socialist macular degeneration - he can see the periphery but the obvious thing right in front of him is completely blanked out.
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