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By bluebellnutter
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The fact that people even feel the need to question whether it is or not is probably as damning an indictment as is required.
 
By bluebellnutter
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From the Graun live blog;
Jeremy Corbyn is at the meeting of Labour’s NEC. But, according to the Press Association, he did not enter the building through the main entrance where media and demonstrators had gathered, and so he was not photographed going in.
Strange, he usually loves a good demo.
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By bluebellnutter
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Gut feel.

Corbyn doesn't want a vote on "any deal" because he is actually hoping to get a deal he can agree on with the Tories through. But what he doesn't want to have to do is then go and campaign for it alongside the Tories he's pushing it through with knowing it's against the wishes of the overwhelming majority of his own party. So even now he's more concerned about saving his own skin than the country he claims to want to lead.
 
By crabcakes_windermere
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bluebellnutter wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:20 pm
Gut feel.

Corbyn doesn't want a vote on "any deal" because he is actually hoping to get a deal he can agree on with the Tories through. But what he doesn't want to have to do is then go and campaign for it alongside the Tories he's pushing it through with knowing it's against the wishes of the overwhelming majority of his own party. So even now he's more concerned about saving his own skin than the country he claims to want to lead.
Absolutely this. His fence-sitting has never been about strategy, letting the tories self-destruct or playing a long game, it's about getting what he wants through inaction while hoping to frame the tories as entirely responsible. He (quite wrongly) reckons throwing remainers the odd crumb by periodically mentioning a heavily caveated people's vote will mean they'll magically forget he did the square root of shit all.
 
By bluebellnutter
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What's interesting is the only person who fell for it was Winegums, who I don't think was a Remainer at all. Certainly not a particularly keen one.
 
By youngian
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Am I being pedantic to suggest this is different to saying I personally apologise as your leader because I carry the can?
Jeremy Corbyn today said he was "very sorry" for Labour's losses in the local elections as he accepted Brexit was a factor.

The party leader arrived amid a steaming row and pouring rain in Trafford - a rare gain for Labour overnight after losing heartlands Hartlepool, Bolsover and Wirral.


There was a swing from the Tories to Labour in many parts of southern England, but the party lost a whopping nine seats in Brexit-backing Sunderland.

And the Lib Dems hailed their best election night ever as a 'Remain backlash' added hundreds of council seats to the anti-Brexit party.

Mr Corbyn said he was “very sorry” to have lost control of northern strongholds but insisted: “We’ll fight back and we’ll win them back.” https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... y-14987921
 
By bluebellnutter
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youngian wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 6:23 pm
A piercing analysis of last night’s election failure; We need to help the Tories deliver Brexit
To be fair, "we must get this over the line" would be exactly the reaction I would expect of a prominent politician who wants Brexit and looks at these results thinking "shit, it's slipping away".
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By Malcolm Armsteen
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Cracking piece in The Observer by Nick Cohen:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... pagandists
 
By Abernathy
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You're not wrong. He could be writing about, nay IS writing about, Swinegums of this parish :
In this world, the good of the party and the good of the country are as disposable as cheap tissues. Gang loyalty is the only virtue. Labour politicians, journalists and activists are replicating the faults of the leaders who own them. They match the paranoia of Abbott when they explain away demands for a stand against Brexit as a conspiracy to undermine the left, or denounce those who protest against the re-emergence of the antisemitic conspiracy theory of fascism as “plotters” against Corbyn, as that overrated loudmouth Yanis Varoufakis did last week.
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