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By Tubby Isaacs
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Given that we're, per Jez's latest preference, going to be negotiating a deal to leave our biggest market, and raising corporation tax by 6 points (albeit gradually), I think some of this needs to be filed under "brave". A £10 minimum wage for 16 years olds in every part of the UK?! But some of it though is basically Merkelism, well overdue.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... c-congress
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By Arrowhead
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:19 pm
This has a whiff of Partridge interviewing Peter Baxendale-Thomas about it, as if Newman was maybe shouting after Corbyn after he'd gone. But equally, it could be a sign that, having risen to the job recently, he's back to previous standards.
Possibly, although the Labour conference will in all likelihood be the main driver of Corbyn's stance from this point onward. As long as the underhand shenanigans of last year are avoided, of course.

From a personal point of view, I don't really care that much whether Corbyn backs Remain or not, so long as we reach the destination of a Final Say vote with Remain on the ballot, whatever the circumstances. It's the only way I can see out of this gibbering madness for the country.
 
By crabcakes_windermere
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Whenever the question comes up as to would Corbyn be stupid enough to do something idiotic, or arrogant enough to ignore every bit of expert advice and opinion in pursuit of a socialist unicorn, just remember - the answer is definitely, emphatically YES

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... deal-right
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By Malcolm Armsteen
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Boiler wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:48 pm
How's Milne operating him in that photo?
Lizard person mind control stare.
 
By youngian
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“We have consistently put forward what I believe to be a credible option, which is based on five pillars – the customs union, the trade relationship, protection of consumer and environmental rights, and of course the Good Friday agreement.”

Its nothing to do with the EU if Britain wishes to carry over and shadow European workers, environmental and consumer rights so what is he advocating negotiating here? If its that these laws should still be arbitrated by the ECJ (as final court of appeal) how would that work if he wants to withdraw from the Single Market? Does Corbyn really understand the difference between this and the CU if he thinks SM withdrawal will honour the GFA?
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By Abernathy
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youngian wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:39 am
“We have consistently put forward what I believe to be a credible option, which is based on five pillars – the customs union, the trade relationship, protection of consumer and environmental rights, and of course the Good Friday agreement.”

Its nothing to do with the EU if Britain wishes to carry over and shadow European workers, environmental and consumer rights so what is he advocating negotiating here? If its that these laws should still be arbitrated by the ECJ (as final court of appeal) how would that work if he wants to withdraw from the Single Market? Does Corbyn really understand the difference between this and the CU if he thinks SM withdrawal will honour the GFA?
Any idiot can see that the "five pillars" are easily achievable simply by retaining the UK's EU membership, and almost certainly not by pursuing a massively improbable "credible option" that it is clear the EU will never countenance and which obviously fails Labour's own six "Starmer tests" by not delivering "the exact same benefits" as membership - as no exit deal ever could.

People are therefore sensibly going to ask "why bother", and vote for the Lib Dems or some other pro-remain party with a less convoluted policy.

It's fucking bonkers.
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