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By Malcolm Armsteen
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Safe_Timber_Man wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:23 pm
I think if a Corbyn apology was greeted in the same way by the press as a Boris apology then he probably would give them what they want. That wouldn't be the case, though, and he and his PR people know that.

"Too little too late"
"Corbyn FINALLY admits Labour are antisemitic"
"Corbyn accused of insincere apology by some random person"
The trick, of course, would have been not to be supportive of anti-Semites in the first place.
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By Tubby Isaacs
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The overarching problem here is Jez's considerable previous. If it wasn't anti-Semitism tripping him up now, it would be NATO, Northern Ireland, Venezuela or whatever. Of course,he's made good judgements too, but there's enough there to scare people who might vote Labour.

But he's not been getting good enough advice. I think the marriage tax allowance is an indefensible sop to the Iain Duncan Smith rightwing. But if you're going to run on nobody under £80k paying more income tax, you don't abolish it, because it means your central claim is wrong, in a very easily understood way.

As I've said on the other thread, I'm not sure about the stuff on the NHS either. I don't see the Tories signing up to US pharma like that. Australia certainly didn't. It could be the only promise Johnson is going to keep.
By Andy McDandy
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Just been on the phone to my mum. She lives in a swing seat, is 70 years old, gets most of her news from the BBC. She hates both Johnson and Corbyn, and doesn't want to waste her vote on a minor party. She feels that Johnson is untrustworthy, and appreciates that the Tories have fucked things over for younger generations; but she fears that Corbyn is a communist and his plans will bankrupt the country. I asked her if she considered Ireland, a country with nationalised utilities, to.be communist or even socialist, and she said no, but she just couldn't trust Corbyn the man.

She said that she will likely hold her nose and vote Labour, but her choice is based heavily on which leader is easier for their party to get rid of. She figures that in the event of a hung parliament, it's more likely that Labour will ditch Corbyn if that's the price of a coalition, while Johnson would either try to hang on with the biggest minority, or be replaced by an even bigger cunt.

One person and all that, but she's the sort that all 3 parties are targeting.
 
By Boiler
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Andy McDandy wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:23 pm
She figures that in the event of a hung parliament, it's more likely that Labour will ditch Corbyn if that's the price of a coalition, while Johnson would either try to hang on with the biggest minority, or be replaced by an even bigger cunt.
My own take is quite the opposite. The Tories are absolutely mercenary at getting rid of leaders they feel are underperforming.

Jez, however... the membership will not allow the dilution of ideological purity. He's there until he's pushing up his leeks.
 
By The Red Arrow
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For what it's worth, Old Mother Arrow can't see Corbyn rounding up and interning ethnic/religious minorities - she can, however see Johnson & co doing so. And may their chosen deity help anyone in earshot who opines that the NHS is safe in Tory hands. She was more than willing to give Jo Swinson's Liberal Democrats a fair hearing, but the more she sees of Swinson, the more she's put off. Oh, and don't get her started on food banks and how dealing with people in temporary council accommodation relying on them is affecting my mental health. We're in agreement that the land her parents fought for is being ruined, and that socialism is not a dirty word.

Carry on, chaps.
 
By Malcolm Armsteen
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Clive James:

On Jeremy Corbyn

I admire the way his principles are uninhibited by reason. I also like his beard, which reminds me of one of the beards I grew at various times in my life when I wished to prove I was still a student, even though the years had passed. Corbyn is a student at heart. I was part of the press corps that followed Michael Foot’s kamikaze 1983 general election campaign, and I recognise the look. Foot didn’t have the beard, but he had the same eyes, glittering with goodness.
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By Bones McCoy
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Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:21 pm
Safe_Timber_Man wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:23 pm
I think if a Corbyn apology was greeted in the same way by the press as a Boris apology then he probably would give them what they want. That wouldn't be the case, though, and he and his PR people know that.

"Too little too late"
"Corbyn FINALLY admits Labour are antisemitic"
"Corbyn accused of insincere apology by some random person"
The trick, of course, would have been not to be supportive of anti-Semites in the first place.
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By The Weeping Angel
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:39 pm
The overarching problem here is Jez's considerable previous. If it wasn't anti-Semitism tripping him up now, it would be NATO, Northern Ireland, Venezuela or whatever. Of course,he's made good judgements too, but there's enough there to scare people who might vote Labour.

But he's not been getting good enough advice. I think the marriage tax allowance is an indefensible sop to the Iain Duncan Smith rightwing. But if you're going to run on nobody under £80k paying more income tax, you don't abolish it, because it means your central claim is wrong, in a very easily understood way.

As I've said on the other thread, I'm not sure about the stuff on the NHS either. I don't see the Tories signing up to US pharma like that. Australia certainly didn't. It could be the only promise Johnson is going to keep.
You're right in fact I'm surprised they haven't mentioned the Northern Ireland stuff. On another forum one of the Corbynistas has claimed that Corbyn played a key part in the peace process and was close to Mo Mowlam
 
By bluebellnutter
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#591618
Still as a slight silver lining at least he might be gone in just over two weeks time and we can have a decent Labour leader again.
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