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By Boiler
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:32 pm
The Poll Tax riots made the government look like it was losing control. But I think getting killed in by elections probably focussed the mind more.
And yet somehow it's always the Lefties who are the violent ones, isn't it?
 
By crabcakes_windermere
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To be fair you’re right - sometimes direct action absolutely is the way and I didn’t mean to imply it’s always wrong. I just get the impression Corbyn’s bigger fans think it is the way that everything should be done. Don’t like something? Kick off about it. Punch a Tory. Punch someone you think might be a Tory etc.

Negotiation is inevitably compromise, and working with people to a common goal doesn’t fit an ‘us and them’ narrative, so you can see why they don’t like it. Why work with centrists to get elected but then have to give ground on some aims? Better to protest and remain true to what you believe.

But of course poor people can’t eat belief or pay the mortgage with retweets by Rachel from Swindon.
By mr angry manchester
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The thing is that if you are a centrist, you have to compromise and water down some socialist policies, but you will get, say 10% for arguments sake, of your programme done. I mean, Blair got the minimum wage, hunting ban, more money on health and education through.

Take the Corbyn approach and you get fuck all done.

Do you prefer the first or second option is the question the cult members need to be asked
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By Boiler
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:47 am
How long before Jez's tweeter talks about "more time for politics"?

Say what you like about Gardiner, he looked like Kevin Keegan slumping over the hoarding on election night. I'll take that over bollocks about real fights starting etc.
I saw the clip of Gardiner on election night on Frankie Boyle's New World Order 2019. I have to say Boyle's description of Michael Gove had me laughing out loud... :lol:
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By Malcolm Armsteen
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:47 am
How long before Jez's tweeter talks about "more time for politics"?

Say what you like about Gardiner, he looked like Kevin Keegan slumping over the hoarding on election night. I'll take that over bollocks about real fights starting etc.
I have no idea what that means.
 
By Arrowhead
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Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:16 pm
I have no idea what that means.
Kevin Keegan was Newcastle Utd manager back in the mid-90's, and near the climax of the 95-96 season took his side to Anfield to face Liverpool in a crucial do-or-die fixture. Newcastle had led the table for most of the season, but had gradually seen their lead melt away over the closing weeks as rivals Man Utd ruthlessly closed the gap. Newcastle ended up losing an astonishing game 4-3, with Liverpool's winner coming in the dying moments, at which point the TV cameras picked out a devastated Keegan slumped dejectedly over the advertising hoardings:

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Or to put it another way, it is an image which is often recalled when describing the precise moment when rosy-cheeked optimism turns to crushing failure.
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By Malcolm Armsteen
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I hadn't realised that a close knowledge of 25 year old football matches was an advantage...

In other news I see that a bunch of Corbynistoids have started a petition to award Magic Grandpa a 'vote of confidence'.

FFS
By Andy McDandy
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A few years ago in Private Eye, Craig Brown did a column in the style of Sharon Osbourne, who at the time was an X Factor judge. In it, she agonised over the fate of three people drowning in a river, saying that she loved them all so dearly she couldn't decide who to throw the lifebelt to. But she really sympathised with their predicament.

Reminds me a bit of Corbyn.
 
By Tubby Isaacs
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Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:17 pm
I hadn't realised that a close knowledge of 25 year old football matches was an advantage...

In other news I see that a bunch of Corbynistoids have started a petition to award Magic Grandpa a 'vote of confidence'.

FFS
24 years. A snappy pop culture reference by my standards. Like when Ray Stubbs started saying "Not!", about 10 years after Wayne's World.
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