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Re: Momentum

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:26 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Momentum strongly criticized here by neoliberal austerian Blairite, Simon Wren-Lewis.


Re: Momentum

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:41 pm
by The Weeping Angel
When Ed was leader he was critical of New Labour he managed to do so without

1. Being too critical.

2. Without resorting to using Tory attack lines.

Re: Momentum

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:26 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Working class and more diverse my arse.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... select-mps
Momentum is to launch a nationwide campaign to encourage members to begin deselection processes for Labour MPs, arguing it can open the door for more diverse, younger, working-class MPs.

The grassroots group said it would support rank-and-file members across the country to begin the process of challenging their sitting MP under Labour’s trigger ballot system.

The system, which was changed last September to make it easier for local party members to challenge MPs, allows members to vote on whether they would like their sitting MP to face a full selection process or be automatically reselected.

If more than a third of local party branches or more than a third of affiliate branches are in favour of open selection, a reselection process will take place where other candidates can challenge the MPs for the seat.

Re: Momentum

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:42 pm
by crabcakes_windermere
They could make a start with a certain white, elderly ex-public school guy who was brought up in a 17th Century Manor. But somehow, I suspect the rules won’t apply to him.

Re: Momentum

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:51 pm
by The Weeping Angel
I'm begining to wonder how many MPs will be deselected.

Re: Momentum

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:07 pm
by youngian
I'm begining to wonder how many MPs will be deselected.

For the better or worse? Deselection was a damp squid in the 80s apart from a few old hacks who did bugger all. MPs build up a bond of trust with their CLPs and they're winners as they've been elected.

Re: Momentum

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:11 pm
by Kreuzberger
youngian wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:07 pm
Deselection was a damp squid in the 80s apart from a few old hacks who did bugger all.
The moist tentacles of Momentum get everywhere...

Re: Momentum

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:12 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Yeah. Often old MPs who wouldn't take the hint to retire.

Re: Momentum

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:13 pm
by Abernathy
youngian wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:07 pm

For the better or worse? Deselection was a damp squid in the 80s
Eggcorn alert !!!

Re: Momentum

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:19 pm
by Andy McDandy
Vote for Cthulhu and the Elder Party. You know it makes sense!

Re: Momentum

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:28 pm
by youngian
Abernathy wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:13 pm
youngian wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:07 pm

For the better or worse? Deselection was a damp squid in the 80s
Eggcorn alert !!!

Would damp squid be a tautology as well?

Re: Momentum

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:42 pm
by cycloon
Not necessarily.

Re: Momentum

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:56 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
youngian wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:07 pm
I'm begining to wonder how many MPs will be deselected.

For the better or worse? Deselection was a damp squid in the 80s apart from a few old hacks who did bugger all. MPs build up a bond of trust with their CLPs and they're winners as they've been elected.
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Re: Momentum

Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:14 am
by The Weeping Angel
Nice to see Lansman with the correct priorties.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... re_twitter
Labour’s ‘moderate’ student wing is set to be effectively abolished and replaced by a more left-leaning body under plans drafted by allies of Jeremy Corbyn, HuffPost UK can reveal.

Momentum founder Jon Lansman has tabled a motion for the party’s ruling National Executive Committee (NEC) on Tuesday, which calls for the party’s general secretary to “urgently” devise a new student organisation.

The move is seen by some MPs as the final act of revenge for the left more than forty years after Labour’s students first saw bitter battles between Trotskyists and their opponents.

Many student Labour clubs are dominated by moderates and the organisation is one of the last bastions of ‘centrist’ activists, with its conference events noted for songs in praise of Tony Blair.

But many on the left of the party argue that its internal elections fail to represent the bulk of ordinary students. Many outside the remit of its Labour clubs are more likely to be supporters of Corbyn, they argue.

Re: Momentum

Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:33 am
by The Weeping Angel
Nobs.



Meanwhile.