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Re: Anti-Semitism and the Labour party

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:52 pm
by youngian
Local Momentum head honchos with CLP positions tearing up party cards. This day just gets better.

Re: Anti-Semitism and the Labour party

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:05 pm
by crabcakes_windermere
Corbyn will keep going forever because he doesn’t think he’s done anything wrong and is far too small a man to either listen to someone else’s opinion or even not do that but to keep his mouth shut and move on.

The same thing matters to him now as it always has - not what Jewish people feel, not what’s best for the Labour Party or the country, not being a distraction when the opposition should be focused on pushing the government to do better. The only thing he’s upset by is the suggestion that Jeremy Corbyn was less than 100% right.

Re: Anti-Semitism and the Labour party

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:31 pm
by youngian
Suspending Corbyn would be great news but how it could be done went unanswered. But true to form catastrophe Corbyn hands it on a plate.

Re: Anti-Semitism and the Labour party

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:20 pm
by bluebellnutter
Looks like Starmer might have achieved something it took Kinnock the best part of half a decade to do in the space of one afternoon

Re: Anti-Semitism and the Labour party

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:28 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
youngian wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:31 pm
Suspending Corbyn would be great news but how it could be done went unanswered. But true to form catastrophe Corbyn hands it on a plate.
Was it you that said Corbyn couldn't spot a Tex Avery mousetrap?

My comparison would be to Andrew Hilditch in the 1985 Ashes, hooking bouncers straight down fine leg's throat.

Re: Anti-Semitism and the Labour party

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:29 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
CWU?

Re: Anti-Semitism and the Labour party

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:22 pm
by youngian
Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:29 pm
CWU?
The union?

Corbyn’s suspension was announced at about 1.20 pm. Too late for the lunchtime bulletins and maximum time to make the 6pm headline. Plenty of time for Corbyn to make a statement about his statement and dig himself further. He was reflecting widely held views of the members or something.

Re: Anti-Semitism and the Labour party

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:00 pm
by The Weeping Angel
My reaction to Corbyn's suspension is the same as Ted Heath's when he heard about Maggie's downfall 'Rejoice, Rejoice'.

Re: Anti-Semitism and the Labour party

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:03 pm
by Boiler
There's bound to be fallout from this. But what?

Re: Anti-Semitism and the Labour party

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:06 pm
by oboogie
Did anyone catch Kerry Anne Mendoza on PM? My AS bingo card is complete - I'm calling "house"!

Re: Anti-Semitism and the Labour party

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:12 pm
by The Weeping Angel
oboogie wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:06 pm
Did anyone catch Kerry Anne Mendoza on PM? My AS bingo card is complete - I'm calling "house"!
Why was she invited? She's a hateful, poisonous troll who has fuck all to do with Labour.

Re: Anti-Semitism and the Labour party

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:14 pm
by Boiler
This last few hours, as I sit in the rural peace and quiet I keep hearing this whining noise and I can't pinpoint it.

Wonder what it is?

Re: Anti-Semitism and the Labour party

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:29 pm
by crabcakes_windermere
So, some predictions:
1. Corbyn’s “war cabinet” - being comprised of such lowlights as Milne and Len - will come up with fuck-all other than the same whining about how unfair it is
2. No other MP has resigned in support, and they’ve all been canny enough to say they want to sort it so the party can move on
3. If he is thrown out, Corbyn will go full crank within 6 months. At this point he might take a few of the dimmest bulbs with him such as Burgon.
4. If he isn’t thrown out, he will do a Ken Livingstone and keep on saying the same shit until he is, and then go full crank
5. By 2024, absolutely no one will give 2 shits about this apart from his most rabid supporters who have been found their grift income severely diminished

Re: Anti-Semitism and the Labour party

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:34 pm
by youngian
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:28 pm
youngian wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:31 pm
Suspending Corbyn would be great news but how it could be done went unanswered. But true to form catastrophe Corbyn hands it on a plate.
Was it you that said Corbyn couldn't spot a Tex Avery mousetrap?

My comparison would be to Andrew Hilditch in the 1985 Ashes, hooking bouncers straight down fine leg's throat.
Peston’s gone for the more sub-editor friendly ‘bear trap.’

Re: Anti-Semitism and the Labour party

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:43 pm
by youngian
crabcakes_windermere wrote:
Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:29 pm
So, some predictions:
1. Corbyn’s “war cabinet” - being comprised of such lowlights as Milne and Len - will come up with fuck-all other than the same whining about how unfair it is
2. No other MP has resigned in support, and they’ve all been canny enough to say they want to sort it so the party can move on
3. If he is thrown out, Corbyn will go full crank within 6 months. At this point he might take a few of the dimmest bulbs with him such as Burgon.
4. If he isn’t thrown out, he will do a Ken Livingstone and keep on saying the same shit until he is, and then go full crank
5. By 2024, absolutely no one will give 2 shits about this apart from his most rabid supporters who have been found their grift income severely diminished

Some serious commentators are claiming this is a high risk strategy for Starmer. Sounds like a no-brainer to me. No one in the PLP is going to take a bullet for the old fool. I’d like to assume the leadership commissioned internal polling on how Corbyn getting the boot plays with Labour’s lost voters. Keir’s not a reckless risk taker but is a betting man who card counts the odds in his favour.