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#553263
Indeed. However, in the expression there may be some ambiguity. We do tend to use these phrases pretty indiscriminately, and it is in those little alleyways of imprecision that the offence-seekers park their carts. Better to ask for clarification before condemnation.
#553264
Or corbyn could have thought about that before making his statement. It's a fairly basic point, that criticism of the actions of the govenrment of Israel isn't the same as criticism of Israel, or jews in general. For him to fuck up a simple thing like that is just another mark against him.
#553265
cycloon wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:56 am
Surely one can hold the 'government of Israel' and 'the state of Israel' as two different things?
TBH a lot of them seem to struggle with the difference between Israelis and Jews.

Which is weird as they never seem to make the mistake of accusing Muslims as a whole of being party to the violence orchestrated by the state of Saudi Arabia.
#553267
It can depend on the context, and the particular trait or policy being described. It's not as clear cut as Kobel would like it to be.

Language is a means of communication for most, a stick to beat others with to some.
#553941
It goes on and on...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 35986.html

Mark Serwotka, who leads the Public and Commercial Services Union (PCS) and is a staunch supporter of Jeremy Corbyn, told a fringe event at the Trades Union Congress conference that the Jewish state could have “created a story that does not exist” in order to distract attention from “atrocities” he said it has committed.

His comments were condemned by antisemitism campaigners, who said Mr Serwotka should resign over the “despicable” claims.

The comments risk reigniting the row over claims of anti-Jewish abuse in Labour, which has died down in recent days after the party’s ruling executive bowed to pressure to adopt an internationally recognised definition of antisemitism.
#554198
Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:39 pm
It goes on and on...
And the MO of these jerksocks is transferrable other issues. Bex Bailey talking about ineffective sexual harassment procedures in the Labour Party is making it all up as part of a plot against Corbyn according to replies on this Tweet
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#554201
visage wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:01 am
There is nothing, literally nothing, that cannot be excused, if to admit to it would imply the fallibility of Corbyn.

Its more like North Korea every day.


Bex Bailey spoke movingly last year how she was raped at a Labour conference and felt all at sea about reporting it. This incident occurred while Ed Miliband was leader so these nutters even manage to make it about Corbyn when there's no reason to.
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