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By Paul
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spoonman wrote:
Arnold wrote:
'UKIP could form 2015 coalition government': Nigel Farage makes extraordinary boast as war of words with Tories rages
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z2HHsYeCdg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Pretty extraordinary considering they don't even have one MP right now!
Besides, if he's taking on the Conservatives in a "war of words", who does he think UKIP should form a coalition with? Labour? :lol: At least the Lib Dems know how to do diplomacy.
So when UKIP fail to get a single seat at the next election, what will Farage do then ?

- Anne, West Midlands EU, United Kingdom, 7/1/2013 13:26
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By Killer Whale
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I fully realise that he's not being serious and that it's just a wind-up, but who the hell are they going to form a coalition with? Not the Tories - they won't have enough seats because UKIP have stolen them. Not the Lib Dems because they'll be down to a rump ten seats. And not Labour because they'll have taken advantage of the split right-wing vote to cruise in with a hundred seat majority.

It appears that the only reason this is being taken seriously by the Mail and the Telegraph is the hope that it will push the Tories to the right. Which can only be electoral suicide. If Labour can't win from this position, they may as well call it a day.
By me123
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Killer Whale wrote:I fully realise that he's not being serious and that it's just a wind-up, but who the hell are they going to form a coalition with? Not the Tories - they won't have enough seats because UKIP have stolen them. Not the Lib Dems because they'll be down to a rump ten seats. And not Labour because they'll have taken advantage of the split right-wing vote to cruise in with a hundred seat majority.
Even if there is another hung parliament, Labour won't want anything to do with them, and a partnership with the Tories could actually anger people on both sides of the debate now that the parties have really started distancing themselves. UKIP supporters want nothing to do with the other two; and vice versa. UKIP in coalition might be a good thing, though. Look what happened to the Lib Dems...

I have quite high suspicions that the recent increase in UKIP support won't equate to many seats, however. Firstly, it's a pretty sudden spike (at least in so far as UK politics is concerned), and I'm sure the electorate could easily be persuaded to change again in the next two-and-a-half years. Also, the current archaic electoral system requires concentration of support, not widespread support. Let's take Yougov's latest poll findings[1]: 9%* of the sample surveyed would vote for UKIP (survey polled 2-3 January 2013, surveying 2005 adults from across the UK). They have a fairly widespread support across England and Wales (although Scotland have pretty much shunned them, as we do with all "British" parties, regardless of national identity). With the vote spread so thin, the chances of them swinging the seats towards UKIP is actually not all that great. Besides which, if the Lib Dems with 23% of the vote in the last general election could only manage a feeble 57 seats, I doubt that UKIP with 9% would make significant inroads anywhere. I suspect they would get some seats, but not enough to actually be significant. (Ironically, huge numbers of their supporters would have voted NO to AV...)

*I am aware of the 16% poll, but I highly suspect that's an erroneous result that hasn't yet been replicated. The latest polls on UKIP have a big spread[2], indicating that some or all of the results are unreliable. There's also a noted bias in that online polls have higher results than telephone polls.

Reference:
[1]http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/d ... 030113.pdf
[2]http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/
By Paul
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UK Independence Party offers Labour coalition pact in return for referendum on Europe

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Desperate stuff that will screw with a few heads !
By mojojojo
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There'll be New Labour people up for it. They probably admire UKIP's attitude towards welfare dependent shirkers and trade unions.
By Paul
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no no no no, dont jump into bed with labour. thus far im yet to find a fault with UKIP. if they are joining forces with labour.....well they have lost my vote!

- marco, yorkshire, 8/1/2013 3:21
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If UKIP wants to dance with the devil, they can both go to hell.

- Mike, York, United Kingdom, 8/1/2013 3:22
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fickle !
 
By lord_kobel
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Maybe that's the- point? Scare people off UKIP back to the tories?

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