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Re: The LibDems, generally

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:20 am
by Malcolm Armsteen
And he said in 2018 that he would step down this year...

Re: The LibDems, generally

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:27 pm
by Arrowhead
A big opportunity for a potential Lib Dem gain from an ERG Tory might be on the horizon - the MP for Brecon and Radnorshire, Chris Davies, has just pleaded gulity to two charges of fraudulent expense claims. If a recall petition is successful, then a by-election for the seat will be held.

Brecon and Radnorshire was a Lib Dem seat between 1997 and 2015, although they failed to quite reach 30% during GE2017.

Re: The LibDems, generally

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:27 am
by bluebellnutter

Re: The LibDems, generally

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 4:24 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The Lib Dem MP Layla Moran will not be standing for the leadership when Sir Vince Cable stands down, which he has said he will do later this year, the Evening Standard reports. A new MP, she had been seen as a potential outside-chance, fresh face candidate. Her decision means that Jo Swinson, the current deputy, must be the clear favourite.
Layla looks quite good. Shame.

Re: The LibDems, generally

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 4:39 pm
by crabcakes_windermere
She doesn't want to do it - she feels like she doesn't have the experience yet, or the media savvy (I know someone who knows her quite well).

Re: The LibDems, generally

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 5:15 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
As an Orange Booker, Swinson is a bit of a worry, after all that's what got us into this mess in the first place. I'd rather have a leader closer to Beveridge than Gladstone.

Re: The LibDems, generally

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 5:19 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I expect Swinson will go where the votes are, policy wise. The problem is having been in the Coalition, and all the verbal hostages to fortune that leaves lying around. Even if she's done some good stuff in a brief, like Davey, she'll still be on record everywhere having defended Osborne and spoken bollocks about Gordo "making us like Greece". I don't think they can afford any of that if they want to get back to pre-Coalition levels.

Re: The LibDems, generally

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 5:24 pm
by oboogie
Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 5:15 pm
As an Orange Booker, Swinson is a bit of a worry, after all that's what got us into this mess in the first place. I'd rather have a leader closer to Beveridge than Gladstone.
^^This.
Swinson comes across as quite amenable, particularly when compared to other party leaders - but then so did Nick Clegg once upon a time.

Re: The LibDems, generally

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:07 am
by crabcakes_windermere
This is a good manifesto well written. Lots of positives about the case for staying in the EU and the benefits it brings both at home and globally.

https://www.libdems.org.uk/manifesto

Re: The LibDems, generally

Posted: Sun May 19, 2019 11:05 pm
by Winegums


Liberals. Always. Side. With. Fascists.

Re: The LibDems, generally

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 12:30 am
by The Red Arrow
I condone it so much I've decided to form a coalition with the milkshake
:lol:

Re: The LibDems, generally

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 9:44 am
by bluebellnutter
Winegums wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 11:05 pm
Liberals. Always. Side. With. Fascists.
Says man who supports a Labour party backing a policy pushed for by the fascists while it is opposed by the liberals.

Re: The LibDems, generally

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 10:08 am
by crabcakes_windermere
Yeah, the Lib Dems - or rather, one person who runs a local branch twitter account - are well fascist for (checks notes) not being fans of direct action. Or 'pacifism' as I think one J. Corbyn calls it.

Also, people who have been milkshaking these right-wing fucks and then photographing them are getting death threats afterwards. And funnily enough a load of leftie fanboys tweeting about how great it is to target fascists is fuck-all use when a mob of tooled up wankers in Tommy Robinson t-shirts start banging on your door at 2am and police cuts mean there'll be no one out to you for an hour. It's the equivalent of the Mail's armchair generals - happy to egg you on and say what is or isn't right, because they'll never have to personally deal with the consequences.

Of course, stopping fascists is a bit harder than making them slightly sticky for a bit and giving them a martyrdom photo opp. It starts by not enabling their bullshit dream policies and questioning a party and its leader who continues to do so in the face of evidence of mass corruption and cheating.

But then, that would require something a lot more difficult to do than forum snark and a Happy Meal.

Re: The LibDems, generally

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 12:45 pm
by The Weeping Angel
bluebellnutter wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 9:44 am
Winegums wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 11:05 pm
Liberals. Always. Side. With. Fascists.
Says man who supports a Labour party backing a policy pushed for by the fascists while it is opposed by the liberals.
Even more hilarious when you consider one of the reasons Labour won't back a second referendum is because it will enable the far-right.

Re: The LibDems, generally

Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 12:57 pm
by Winegums
bluebellnutter wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 9:44 am
Winegums wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 11:05 pm
Liberals. Always. Side. With. Fascists.
Says man who supports a Labour party backing a policy pushed for by the fascists while it is opposed by the liberals.
Are you talking about ending freedom of movement? And, to be clear, do you think that Corbyn has some sort of racist tendencies resulting in hoping to end this piece of legislation?