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By youngian
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Can't be bothered to go into the many reasons why Simon Jenkins is talking piffle but he's a man immaturing with age. Its the kind of naive, sloppy 'I reckon' analysis you'd read in Novara Media
The Lib Dems helped the Tories to victory again. Now they should disband
The party’s only achievement was to split the vote. It should now merge with Labour and become a moderate influence
 
By Tubby Isaacs
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There were certainly some disastrous plays by the Lib Dems (eg Kensington) but all the cooperation in the world wasn't making a 45% Tory vote share go away. The Lib Dems have got a lot of their "good second places" back. Johnson has to worry about them again, if Labour comes up with a leader that Lib Dem voters like. A certain former Director of Public Prosecutions could fit the bill.
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Boiler wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:32 am
An unhappy Simon Jenkins on the Lib Dems...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ote-labour
Apart from anything else, it completely ignores the huge numbers of councillors they have and councils they control. And of course the fact the solution to Labour putting forward an unappealing option isn’t to take other options away.
 
By youngian
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:57 pm
There were certainly some disastrous plays by the Lib Dems (eg Kensington) but all the cooperation in the world wasn't making a 45% Tory vote share go away. The Lib Dems have got a lot of their "good second places" back. Johnson has to worry about them again, if Labour comes up with a leader that Lib Dem voters like. A certain former Director of Public Prosecutions could fit the bill.
There does seem a bit of cheer beneath the surface for the LDs. They gained 1.3m votes while Tory numbers fairly static and Labour losing the equivalent of the population of Ireland. Starmer can certainly be sold. Depending on what door you’re knocking he’s the man who took on the might of McDonalds on behalf of environmentalists and won or the man who saw to it villains and nonces got banged up.
 
By Malcolm Armsteen
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youngian wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:01 pm
I'd imagine smarty pants Layla Moran will go down like cold sick with gammon pensioners in LD coastal target seats like Eastbourne. Apart from Duane Allman fans.
FTFY
 
By youngian
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Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:18 am
youngian wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 10:01 pm
I'd imagine smarty pants Layla Moran will go down like cold sick with gammon pensioners in LD coastal target seats like Eastbourne. Apart from Duane Allman fans.
FTFY
Speaking of which if its still on the iPlayer there's a very good BBC4 biography of Clapton which he narrates. Its unusual as he spent most of it beating himself up detailing the periods in his life when he was a loathsome prick. And there were many. He spoke highly of John Mayall and George Harrison but few others. His friendship with Harrison blossomed over time because he thought 'the Beatles were a bunch of wankers.'
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Is this pansexual thing the same as bisexual then?, both sides?

The tories have a precedent for this, Robert Boothby. He was simultaneously shagging Harold MacMillans wife and Ronnie Kray.
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