[The Red Arrow]

Debbie McGee, more like - the magic's gone hasn't it?






The Ali Bongo-style moon and stars smock, third peg from the left, ta.

[Cyclist]

That doesn't really work in this context Red. Debbie McGee was left with a *lot* of money. Fargle's victims will be left with the exact opposite.

[MisterMuncher]

Not really, he was permanently paraplegic. But he maintained dignity, and didn't use it for sympathy. He also had the support of Eleanor, who was just as intelligent and forward thinking as he was.

That's beating it in my book. Hell, even as a pseudo-right wing Asshole, Dennis Leary* could recognise that he was the last real "macho" president, who could live with that disability, look it in the eye and say "fuck you". Nothing to fear but fear itself is a hell of an attitude. Compare to the intense fragility at the root of Trumpism.


*It's genuinely hard to tell how serious Leary was in the like of "No Cure For Cancer". My thought is that it's mostly satirical and he's probably not a bad bloke.

[Malcolm Armsteen]

And yet Republicans despise him still.

Have you seen the memorials to him in Washington?



and



You see where hs knee is a bit shiny? I helped with that...

[Malcolm Armsteen]

And a bit of sand just flew up from the beach and got in my eye...

[mr angry manchester]

The best ever President, IMO, head and shoulders above the rest.

[Malcolm Armsteen]

I've made a post about FDR over on the Trump thread.

[crabcakes_windermere]

I've noticed Farage's Trump fawning has gone into overdrive the last week or so. I suppose with Patel being even more than a shit than he is, Lawrence Fox being a younger, more attractive version of him sewing up the political grift market, and brexit rapidly approaching the stage when everyone who was for it has to back away or risk taking responsibility, an escape to Fox in the US must be tempting.

[The Red Arrow]

Bask in the glow of the fires you lit, Nige...don't get too close to the flames, now - that cheap suit and the alcohol fumes might go up.

[mr angry manchester]

I've made a post about FDR over on the Trump thread.

I've just read it and it's excellent. FDR is one of my heroes.

[Bones McCoy]

Bask in the glow of the fires you lit, Nige...don't get too close to the flames, now - that cheap suit and the alcohol fumes might go up.

That would be a ... pity.

[cycloon]

Not really, he was permanently paraplegic. But he maintained dignity, and didn't use it for sympathy. He also had the support of Eleanor, who was just as intelligent and forward thinking as he was.

That's beating it in my book. Hell, even as a pseudo-right wing Asshole, Dennis Leary* could recognise that he was the last real "macho" president, who could live with that disability, look it in the eye and say "fuck you". Nothing to fear but fear itself is a hell of an attitude. Compare to the intense fragility at the root of Trumpism.

It's a fairly common observation but it's so striking I feel it bears repeating: at the heart of all this macho bullshit from Trump, Tories et al is a basic fundamental fear that utterly possesses either them or their followers, whom they exploit endlessly.

'The world is complicated'.

[youngian]

Nigel from 2016 and its unlikely Bozo will be able to fulfill his one trump card

[The Red Arrow]

Carry on, chaps.

[Boiler]

A Brexit Party defector.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-54598135