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Re: The Dudes' Party

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:51 pm
by Big Arnold
Daley Mayle wrote:Why did a box come up warning that the website was 'nonsense'? I've read websites run by feminists that are equally self-serving, partial and batshit.
That box is from http://www.donotlink.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, used by Ezinra to avoid contsmination from the actual party site.

Re: The Dudes' Party

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:30 pm
by mojojojo
Nothing to add, ezinra is completely right about these arseholes/

I'd just say though, when I read the title of the thread I was expecting this chap to be the subject

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Re: The Dudes' Party

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:30 am
by ezinra
Walter Sobchak would not make a stupider or scarier justice secretary than the one we have at the moment.

Re: The Dudes' Party

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:53 am
by Daley Mayle
Arnold wrote:
Daley Mayle wrote:Why did a box come up warning that the website was 'nonsense'? I've read websites run by feminists that are equally self-serving, partial and batshit.
That box is from http://www.donotlink.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, used by Ezinra to avoid contsmination from the actual party site.
It's nonsense in Ezinra's opinion, yes. If our Ezza is so offended by a site that possibly no one knew about here why give it publicity? As anyone actually read the manifesto? Of course it is partial, it is arguing for the rights of men that the author feels needs addressing.

@Ezrina, do you have a break down of the number of women in PR, marketing and advertising in the UK? From my personal experience there are as many females as there are males, if not more so. These would be the same women who are behind adverts in the UK that show men as rather pathetic laughable losers (usually loose lipped and podgy) who are firmly put in their place by a smart sassy woman (always slim, capable and, for reasons I can't get a grip on, wearing a grey vest and sporting close cropped hair. Not unlike Lara Croft from Tomb Raiders come to think of it).

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Re: The Dudes' Party

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:56 am
by Daley Mayle
Sorry DC, I was deleting your duplicate post at the same time you were deleting the other one.

Re: The Dudes' Party

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:19 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
So your previous post wasn't ironic. Unbelievable...

Re: The Dudes' Party

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:26 pm
by D.C. Harrison
I'm surprised that this bunch of goons are wanting to ban abortion. Half the meatheads I meet who whine that women are "taking over" and such guff are the first to complain when they are "trapped" by a woman getting pregnant.

Re: The Dudes' Party

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:33 pm
by Esqui
Some of the articles linked in that thing are utterly idiotic. "Why are women above the law?" "10 reasons false rape allegations are common".

£50 says he refers to himself as a "meninist".

Re: The Dudes' Party

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:45 pm
by ezinra
Daley Mayle wrote:It's nonsense in Ezinra's opinion, yes.
Nowt to do with me. What that means is that somebody elsewhere on the net has tagged the site as 'nonsense' when linking it via Do Not Link. I agree with them, obviously, but it wasnae me; my link said it was a "hideously ugly wordpress page", which is surely even less contestable.

Adverts and the advertising industry are not at the top of my political agenda. I would agree with the tumblr I linked which says:
Sometimes ads target men. Sometimes they target women. But every time, all the time, they do so in a manner which portrays the other gender as stupid. Or as little more than sexual objects. Or as people who exist purely to look after their partners.

Though I'm sure if you look hard enough you'll see that men are mostly portrayed in ways that underline their competence, strength and resilience (think car ads, shaving ads, all those celebrity footballers selling sports gear), while women's area of competence is limited to tasks like cleaning the bathroom and applying eyeliner.

Anita Sarkeesian shows how Lego's marketing to girls has changed, for the worse, since I was wee.

Re: The Dudes' Party

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:46 pm
by Andy McDandy
D.C. Harrison wrote:I'm surprised that this bunch of goons are wanting to ban abortion. Half the meatheads I meet who whine that women are "taking over" and such guff are the first to complain when they are "trapped" by a woman getting pregnant.
Kids - good to boast about, not so good to care about.

Re: The Dudes' Party

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 12:49 pm
by Esqui
ezinra wrote:
Sometimes ads target men. Sometimes they target women. But every time, all the time, they do so in a manner which portrays the other gender as stupid. Or as little more than sexual objects. Or as people who exist purely to look after their partners.

Though I'm sure if you look hard enough you'll see that men are mostly portrayed in ways that underline their competence, strength and resilience (think car ads, shaving ads, all those celebrity footballers selling sports gear), while women's area of competence is limited to tasks like cleaning the bathroom and applying eyeliner.
And some cases, a lot of adverts don't do much for men or women. I'm particularly thinking of those adverts that Daley refers to where a woman "puts a man in his place". Quite often, said adverts are for cleaning products, shopping, etc. And when the overall message is "Stupid man, this is woman's work", I think both should feel offended.

Re: The Dudes' Party

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:16 pm
by Daley Mayle
Malcolm Armsteen wrote:So your previous post wasn't ironic. Unbelievable...

It was kinda ironic, but I feel that everyone has a right to hold an opinion and that opinion has equal validity with yours or mine.

The nonsense tag irritated.

Re: The Dudes' Party

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:20 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Yes. We are all entitled to an opinion.

But not all opinions are equal.

Re: The Dudes' Party

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:36 pm
by Daley Mayle
Malcolm Armsteen wrote:Yes. We are all entitled to an opinion.

But not all opinions are equal.

Yep, I'm with the Four Legs' Opinions but sometimes, just sometimes, Two Legs gets the vote from me.

Re: The Dudes' Party

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 5:56 pm
by The Weeping Angel
D.C. Harrison wrote:I'm surprised that this bunch of goons are wanting to ban abortion. Half the meatheads I meet who whine that women are "taking over" and such guff are the first to complain when they are "trapped" by a woman getting pregnant.
Caring for kids is a woman's responsibility ain't right Mike?