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By Bones McCoy
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The Red Arrow wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 12:07 pm
But Nige wants to leave with No Deal...

So why the need to negotiate?

It’s almost like he just wants to be in the limelight...
Isn't she busy putting her stuff into removal boxes?
 
By Boiler
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I think that claim's subsequently been withdrawn, but no matter - the idea is now out in the wild. To be fair, it's one frequently laid at election results in Peterborough.

https://zelo-street.blogspot.com/2019/0 ... trump.html
 
By youngian
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Farage pulled that one in previous by-elections like Oldham. According to Guardian's Jon Harris, Asian voters in Leave towns have been the biggest switchers to Remain. If English exceptionalist emotion wasn't your motivation for voting Leave there's no longer much to hang on to.
By Andy McDandy
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"Some MEPs to play a significant role...".

Translation: now you discover who's in the inner circle, and who is just here for their subscription.
 
By Abernathy
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Well, even if there are some Asian households where there are multiple occupants registered to vote, all that is is a reflection of the way that many people of Asian origin choose to live - together in extended family households with a number of people having attained the age of majority and therefore on the electoral register.

It's no more significant a factor in the worth of the Labour vote than the shininess of Piers Simkins' Volvo is in a Tory voting household.
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By Bones McCoy
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Yebbut audible to the dogs.
Abernathy wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:19 am
Well, even if there are some Asian households where there are multiple occupants registered to vote, all that is is a reflection of the way that many people of Asian origin choose to live - together in extended family households with a number of people having attained the age of majority and therefore on the electoral register.

It's no more significant a factor in the worth of the Labour vote than the shininess of Piers Simkins' Volvo is in a Tory voting household.
 
By Bones McCoy
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After Peterborough's By Election

I've held back for a few days while collating the available information.
Party loyalists and invested Brexit or remain campaigners have been predictable in their spinning.

Yesterday afternoon Prof. John Curtice was on a panel show, injecting a puff of realism to the rest of the panel.
The main points:

* Voters predictably snapped back toward government and opposition parties in a FPTP by-election.
* There was almost no movement between brexit and remain blocs between Euro and By elections.
For the numbers to balance it was necessary to count Labour votes as part of the remain bloc.
* Labour was extremely successful at recapturing votes fomr the remain bloc (Green and LibDem), while
tories were less successful in recapturing Brexit voters.
* Brexit didn't seem to eat into the labour votes, just the tories.

I've drawn 2 conclusions form this.

The Labour win has stuck a spoke in the wheel of Nigel's unicycle.
A Brexit win at this point could be exploited as the rise of an unstoppable movement.
Brexit losing (narrowly) from a favourable start point halts that momentum.
I chuckle at the thought of red-top leader writers being summoned from their beds to re-write their By Election headlines and leaders.

Brexit is now brawling with the Tories for Westminster votes.
I can't imagine those same Red-tops tolerating an existential threat to the Tory Party.
They may continue promoting Nigel's project, but they'll know his party now threatens Tory votes in the marginals, and isn't the anti-Labour ticket that they hoped for.
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