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By spoonman
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new puritan wrote:Irish Labour leader Eamon Gilmore has resigned. They've been taking a bit of a pounding from the Shinners recently and other leftist groups have been picking up a few seats.
Bit of a shame for Gilmore, but the story behind it is quite similar to that of Nick Clegg & the Lib Dems.

* Irish Labour is in recent tradition the Republic's third party.
* Quite soon to the last General Election, be found leading the polls, standing on a centre-left platform.
* Wind up as a junior partner in a coalition government.
* Have to break a number of pre-election promises as part of the coalition.
* Get hammered in the local & EU elections, picking up a 7% share in the latter.

To be fair, I feel Gilmore has simply become a victim of unpopular measures taken during the current Fine Gael-Labour government and that when you are a junior coalition partner you are never going to get things your way. IMO though what they have pushed through has been handled a lot better than what the Conservative-Lib Dem coalition in Westminster has done, and they have managed to exit the EU bailout program. They still have to find billions of Euro in savings in the next budget though. The electorate in the Irish Republic don't tend to be forgiving of junior coalition parties when coalition governments make unpopular decisions as in the last ten years the Progressive Democrats and the Greens have been wiped out from the Daíl. Labour probably won't be wiped out but will still suffer badly at the next Irish general election. If Sinn Fein end up becoming the third largest party after the next general election there, they would have to be very wary about jumping into power with two feet if Fianna Fail start making noises (I can't see Fine Gael making an offer, as the two parties have significant historical baggage).
By new puritan
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An exciting new party emerges to break the mould in Ireland.
Detailed plans for a new party have been drawn up and discussions are taking place with politicians inside and outside the Dáil who are considering joining.

The party, emerging from the group calling itself the Reform Alliance, will publish a policy document on political reform in the coming weeks as the prelude to the formation of the political party later in the year.

The success of Independents in the recent elections has boosted confidence that the time is ripe for the formation. The party is likely to be called the Independent Alliance.


Sources in the movement say the new party will adopt a liberal economic agenda emphasising budgetary discipline and free market policies, along with a commitment not to apply the party whip on issues of conscience.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics ... -1.1818137" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
By Agnes
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Shouldn't imagine it's code for 'stopping benefit recipients starving to death,' so yes, I'm guessing it's homophobia- and misogyny-based too.
By new puritan
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Timbo wrote:I'm guessing 'issues of conscience' is code for 'gays and abortion'?
Yes. So basically, no whip for issues relating to abortion/The Gays but the whip for everything else (including, of course, economic policy - no issues of conscience there).
By youngian
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new puritan wrote:An exciting new party emerges to break the mould in Ireland.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics ... -1.1818137" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Lucinda Creighton is the sort of opportunist political hack whose life the marvellous Vincent Browne likes to make a misery


Also joined by Sinn Féin's Deputy Leader in the Dail, Jade Goody.
By spoonman
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I'm a few days late with this, but this has all the hall markings of building up to a major horrific tale of the history of the modern Irish state in tandem to that of the Catholic Church in the country beyond what it has already been shown up to have tried to cover...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27728542" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/ ... 36459.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Horrible does not even come close to describe it.
By spoonman
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There's conflicting reports, the septic tank in question was built after the Famine and only stopped being used once the home was connected up to the mains sewage, and an eyewitness report says that bones were seen by some local boys in 1975 when they lifted up the concrete cap. More than likely more than 20 bodies were in the disused tank, but there's suggestions that the bodies were illegally buried, some of them only in shrouds.

As Rob says though, 'news'papers - blow up the worst possible scenario as the headline whereas the likelyhood is more nuanced, but maybe still shocking.
By new puritan
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The Fianna Fail shitshow keeps rolling on.
Colette Browne ‏@colettebrowne Jun 23
So, FF, the Republican Party, is now aligned with the Ulster Unionist Party in the EU.
By new puritan
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Interesting interview with an Irish activist on the campaign against water charges.

http://weeklyworker.co.uk/worker/1033/a ... -of-being/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Pretty impressive. Quite a contrast from Britain. You get the feeling that Cameron could sell the entire British working class into slavery and the media would hail it as 'centrism'.
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