Political talk from outside of the UK
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By Abernathy
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A president elected in Egypt's first ever fair and democratic election is forcibly deposed by the military after barely a year because of demonstrations on the streets of Cairo, and in the face of significant other demonstrations in support of the president.

Facebook is full of people joshingly asking why we don't follow suit in the UK, but frankly, I'd be seriously worried if our armed forces ever involved themselves in deposing a government - yes, even this fucking government - in the way that has happened in Egypt.

Yes, the socialist firebrand in me longs for a people's revolution in which we shake off the hateful yoke of Clegg, Cameron, and the Mail, but we're not there yet - thankfully.

Similarly, despite the Mailtard commentators, there is precisely zero prospect of a be-slippered revolution of middle class Mail reading curtain twitchers for whom the broadcast of the muslm call to prayer in the dead of night is the final straw.

After all that, the situation in Egypt is at least of as much concern as that in Syria.
By new puritan
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I think the army is intervening to prevent the revolution from going down a more radical route. The last time the Egyptian military was in charge, it was happy to co-opt the more liberal elements of the anti-Mubarak coalition but it took a very hard line on leftists. Expect the same to happen this time around. I've no sympathy at all for Morsi and the neoliberal, repressive Muslim Brotherhood - fuck 'em, frankly - but I'm sceptical about whether anything good can come out of a military coup.
By new puritan
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Here come the technocrats.

CAIRO — The selection of Hazem el-Beblawi as Egypt’s interim prime minister on Tuesday appeared to send a signal that the military-led transitional government intends to move forward with economic reforms and restructuring including reductions in the country’s vast public subsidies.

Mr. Beblawi earned a Ph.D. in economics from the University of Paris, worked as an economic consultant and a United Nations official, and became a prominent critic of President Hosni Mubarak’s economic policies for failing to either open up free markets or serve the poor.


“We must create a clear understanding for the public that the level of subsidies in Egypt is unsustainable, and the situation is critical,” Mr. Beblawi said in an interview with Daily News Egypt, an English-language newspaper here, shortly before the ouster last week of Mohamed Morsi, who replaced Mr. Mubarak as Egypt’s first freely elected president.

Mr. Beblawi argued that Mr. Morsi had failed to communicate to the public the gravity of the economic crisis hobbling Egypt.

“The canceling of subsidies requires sacrifices from the public and therefore necessitates their acceptance,” he said. “It is crucial that they understand the scope of the danger that the current size of subsidies impose on Egypt’s economy, and they must also feel that its rationing is done in a way that guarantees social justice.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/10/world ... html?_r=1&

Well, that sounds like a not-at-all inflammatory idea at the present juncture.
By new puritan
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Classic reporting from the Beeb.

Mr Beblawi is known for his liberal views on the economy and supports a free market system in Egypt.


Mr Beblawi is expected to follow a pragmatic line in economic matters as interim prime minister.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23249049

Forcing through ruinous cuts to subsidies in the aftermath of a military coup - not really my idea of 'pragmatic'.
By Big Rob
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As far as I was aware it was Morsi's constitution that caused the ruckus.....

It was in effect an attempt by the muslim brotherhood to consolidate power.

I can't say I blame people for getting upset about that.
By new puritan
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el-Sisi has now declared a state of emergency. So, martial law, a massacre and neoliberal technocrats running the show - great work, Egyptian liberals.
By new puritan
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Oborne on the money.

Had President Morsi’s Islamic government been guilty of a fraction of the killings carried out by General Sisi’s regime there would have been ferocious denunciations from the Downing Street and the White House, and calls for intervention But because the mass killings are being carried out by a western backed military junta there is indifference – and quiet collusion- in the West.


http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peter ... -al-qaeda/

It's amazing how closely our pro-war liberals' agenda mirrors that of the US/UK state war machine. They take their lead directly from it.
By new puritan
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Oborne on the continuing misadventures of Egyptian dictator al-Sisi.

The earliest political decision made by Ayman al-Zawahiri, the Egyptian doctor who has presided over such a dramatic resurgence of al-Qaeda since Osama Bin Laden’s death, was to join the Muslim Brotherhood.

Even then, back in the mid-Sixties, the Brotherhood was proscribed. This meant that it was impossible for a young man like Zawahiri to get involved in mainstream politics. Instead, Egypt’s brutally repressive system of government forced him down the path that led to al-Qaeda and the Twin Towers.

Is history about to repeat itself? I ask this urgent question because I have just returned from a very troubling trip to Cairo, a city that I last visited in the summer of 2011. Everything seemed possible back then, when the crowds gathered in Tahrir Square during the hopeful, happy, good-natured months that followed the fall of President Mubarak.

Today, protest is punishable by jail. Abductions are commonplace, torture routine. Demonstrators get shot dead. Following the coup that removed President Morsi on July 3 last year, a military junta is in control. Acting president Adly Mansour is a puppet. The defence minister, General Sisi, runs the country.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... Egypt.html
By new puritan
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lord_kobel wrote:What a lot of fucking racist retards in the comments...


Didn't bother venturing that far. Not worth it.
By new puritan
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Reports from HRW that the regime has been turning the screw on its opposition ahead of an impending constitutional referendum.

(New York) – At least seven peaceful activists from the Strong Egypt party face criminal charges, apparently for hanging posters calling for a “no” vote in the forthcoming constitutional referendum. During interrogations with prosecutors and police, questions fixated on the posters and the men’s political views. The constitutional referendum will be held on January 14 and 15, 2014.

Police arrested the activists in three separate incidents after finding them in possession of posters calling for a “no” vote in the week preceding the referendum. Prosecutors charged the first group of three, arrested on January 7, under a section of the penal code that criminalizes “propogat[ing]… the call for changing the basic principles of the constitution…when the use of force or terrorism, or any other illegal method, is noted during the act.” A fourth party member detained on January 10 faces charges related to alleged involvement in terrorism. Three others, apprehended on January 12 for “distributing fliers, attempting to overthrow the regime, provoking citizens to reject the constitution, and engaging in incitement against the police and army,” will be brought in front of prosecutors on January 13 to face specific charges.


http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/01/13/egyp ... o-campaign

So 'provoking citizens to reject the constitution' - in other words, campaigning for a 'no' vote - is illegal in Egypt. It's all looking a bit, well, Pinochet.
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