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Re: Meanwhile in Greece

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:48 pm
by Boiler
Kreuzberger wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:20 pm
Seriously though, what a bunch of imbeciles, getting so worked up about such an issue.
Even fifteen years ago we were told not to bring up Macedonia in conversation with the locals. But 100,000 people? That's a *lot*. Must be the snow on the beaches in Athens last week got to them.

And is that huge flea market in Monastiraki still there?

Re: Meanwhile in Greece

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:24 am
by Kreuzberger
Boiler wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:48 pm
Kreuzberger wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:20 pm
Seriously though, what a bunch of imbeciles, getting so worked up about such an issue.
Even fifteen years ago we were told not to bring up Macedonia in conversation with the locals. But 100,000 people? That's a *lot*. Must be the snow on the beaches in Athens last week got to them.

And is that huge flea market in Monastiraki still there?
100k is the cops' estimate and, considering temps being in single figures this afternoon, that as close to absolute zero as yer average Athenian is ever likely to come.

In truth, I don't know what the Monastiraki flea market used to be like in pre-crisis times. I guess it has changed anyway, regardless of the hardships.

Remaindered Beckham jerseys vie for space with carefully foxed repro Gina Lollobrigida posters but the back shop in so many of these places is just breathtaking. Especially lighting, beds, fin du siècle upholstery, pianos and anything else that can't be easily punted on ebay to the north of Europe.

Moreover, there are tons of chinz. A keen eye, €5,000, and an LWB Sprinter would gross probably ten to fifteen times that with access in to the UK gay market and the hip young things of Brighton, Hamburg and Copenhagen.

That, or just pass the time of day listening to people. Both are pretty cool.

Re: Meanwhile in Greece

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:31 am
by Boiler
Well, to all the detractors who point at Greece as an example of failure:

IMF: Greece among best performers in eurozone

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47547065

Re: Meanwhile in Greece

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:50 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
They need to follow through on that debt relief for Greece. Ought to have been done already. Could become politically more difficult if you get a bunch more bad figures for the rest of the Eurozone.

Re: Meanwhile in Greece

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:22 pm
by youngian
I’ve never fully understood why Greece couldn’t just default like US cities which make no difference to the performance of the Dollar. The size of the bailouts are staggering but much of it are defacto bank bailouts.

Re: Meanwhile in Greece

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:54 pm
by Kreuzberger
The problem was that those banks were often foreign banks in which those states had a healthy stake. I.e. Sophie and Jürgen being ultimately lumbered with the tab

Re: Meanwhile in Greece

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:19 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Indeed.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-euro ... 6H20150106

Over half of the German proportion was owed to a state-owned development bank.

Re: Meanwhile in Greece

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:04 pm
by Peter Howe
It's pretty absurd, though, if you consider greek citizenship by investment program is working well for them right now. It's absurd to talk about a Grexit in these conditions, I mean when you are deep in dept and making good profit just with the name of the EU.

Re: Meanwhile in Greece

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:54 pm
by crabcakes_windermere
So much for centrism being deathly unpopular...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... SApp_Other

Re: Meanwhile in Greece

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:55 pm
by cycloon
Don't worry: it can be readily explained by 'centre right is basically fascist anyway'.

Re: Meanwhile in Greece

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:15 am
by The Weeping Angel
Oh and our press as usual fucked up big time.


Re: Meanwhile in Greece

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:12 am
by youngian
Tsipras in practice was probably the least populist PM Greece has had. Mitsotakis sounds like an awful dynastic figure of a client state that has dogged Greece for so long. His main platform was to cut tax due to Tsipras’s wild eyed idea that you have to pay some in order to restore credit worthiness.