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#613056
I suppose this was entirely predictable.

Chlorinated chicken ‘on menu after Boris Johnson U-turn’

https://www.metro.news/chlorinated-chic ... n/2034986/
Under a ‘dual tariff’ regime high-quality foods, such as free range meat, would be subject to lower tariffs to encourage foreign producers to match British welfare standards.

Trade secretary Liz Truss, who is leading the talks, is understood to want zero tariffs over a decade, according to The Daily Telegraph. Greenpeace UK’s John Sauven asked: ‘Who’s to guarantee ministers won’t lower the tariffs later on under pressure from Donald Trump and the US industry lobbies?’
#613061
No need. Nothing there says you can't buy something at your local butchers that isn't raised and slaughtered to current standards, or just buy organic. This stuff is more likely to end up in fast food and ready meals.
#613062
Exactly the point.

Like all 'quality food' arguments it all comes down to cost, and what people on a minimum wage can afford to buy in order to keep their families fed.
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#613064
I'm old enough to remember when chicken was an expensive 'treat' food - the cheap staple then was pork.

And then... there's this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... roost.html
This apocalyptic warning comes from Dr Michael Greger, a scientist, medical guru and campaigning nutritionist who has long advocated the overwhelming benefits of a plant-based diet. He’s a self-confessed sweet potatoes, kale and lentils man. Meat, in all its forms, is his bete noire.

He has also done a lot of research into infectious diseases — the 3,600 footnotes and references in his mammoth 500-page book bear witness to that.
#613067
They’ll be little price bonus with US imports. Sterling’s never recovered from its tumble after May’s speech about exiting the CU and its likely to again if there’s No Deal. Important not over-egg Trump because the US will bend the UK over the table regardless of who is in the White House . Unless Biden wants to punish Brexit for geopolitical reasons and their role in Trump’s rise and shelves negotiations.
#613100
Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:46 am
Exactly the point.

Like all 'quality food' arguments it all comes down to cost, and what people on a minimum wage can afford to buy in order to keep their families fed.

It also comes down to what farmers can sustain as a business. Faced with US bulk, the diversification crops that provide secondary income for farmers are *fucked*, as if they weren't already in losing the EU market. Race to the bottom be damned. US farmers are some of the most subsidised on earth, they're already able to survive selling at a loss.

UK farming is the independent coffee shop that's had two Starbucks open either side.
#613107
Quite a lot of subsidies go to farming so that supermarket shelf prices are low. Perhaps they'll be next on "The Enemy Within" pile.
#613112
The majority of subs were coming from the evil EU, and they were also going to get paid out of the magical £350million a week. So they were going anyway.
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#615453
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53192842
The government has begun the process of buying a UK-specific satellite navigation system.

PM Boris Johnson and Chancellor Rishi Sunak are understood to be keen on putting a 20% stake in satellite operator OneWeb. The UK is unable to access the EU's Galileo satellite navigation system following Brexit. The OneWeb system would be backup for the US-based Global Positioning System (GPS) if it is attacked or fails.
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#615544
Boiler wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:44 am
No need. Nothing there says you can't buy something at your local butchers that isn't raised and slaughtered to current standards, or just buy organic. This stuff is more likely to end up in fast food and ready meals.
There are those of us who find the current obsession of shopping around and changing suppliers (for example the energy/telecomms/insurance industries) to be an unnecessary annoyance.
Perhaps an illustration of the bullshit end of Thatcher's free market dream.

I cannot imagine how this represents "efficiency" when the markets must now support an additional raft of marketing staff and a £30 annual bung to the meerkats.
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