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#633771
We have to look forward to a glorious future, of deregulation and further erosion of workers rights. Will those places which voted leave become hot beds of commerce and employment opportunities as a result? Naw!
#633774
Boiler wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:39 pm
Well, for now at least, Sunderland has had its arse pulled from the fire and won't be turning into the call centre capital of the UK.
Manufacturing exporters face a number of problems like rules of origin but they haven’t been thrown to the wolves over effing fish. That’s the nearest to a result.
#633775
Apparently these are the benefits of Brexit, according to a particularly... fervent supporter elsewhere.
So the Brexit deal means we will get the one good bit from the EU ie we can export stuff to them without tariffs but without all the following drawbacks-

1 no millions of pounds in membership fees to pay every year
2 No out of control immigration
3 no subsidies to pay to support other poorer countries
4 no foreign parliament telling us what we are allowed to do
5 no need for MEPs
6 more British fishing industry
7 companies employing more British people
8 reduced population growth leading to cheaper housing, rent or purchase
9 less housebuilding needed ie more green fields
10 reduced traffic on the roads ie less traffic jams
As ever; where do you start?
#633776
The benefits of Brexit:

1, Hedgefunders (0.00001% of the population) will benefit as they won't be subject to EU rules regarding off shore tax havens so they can avoid paying tax

2, fuck all else
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#633779
Boiler wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:23 pm
Apparently these are the benefits of Brexit, according to a particularly... fervent supporter elsewhere.
So the Brexit deal means we will get the one good bit from the EU ie we can export stuff to them without tariffs but without all the following drawbacks-

1 no millions of pounds in membership fees to pay every year
2 No out of control immigration
3 no subsidies to pay to support other poorer countries
4 no foreign parliament telling us what we are allowed to do
5 no need for MEPs
6 more British fishing industry
7 companies employing more British people
8 reduced population growth leading to cheaper housing, rent or purchase
9 less housebuilding needed ie more green fields
10 reduced traffic on the roads ie less traffic jams
As ever; where do you start?
If there is one argument that really infuriates me from Brexiteers it is the view of a finite stable economic landscape - i.e. there are only a certain number of jobs to go around and therefore if you keep forrins out, more of our own will be able to fill them.

There is a demographic timebomb that is building up in this country that will be defined by a shrinking tax base and growing pressures on long term care. Migration and being attractive to young tax paying migrants was our best way to deal with this as well as driving cultural enrichment. I hope the 50 year and 60 year old gammons who voted for this trainwreck who will end up paying heavily for long term care (assuming any carers can be found) and that they choke on their domestically fished herring which is all they will be able to afford to eat1
#633781
At my count, 6 of those can be summed up as "fuck 'em, they're foreign".

But you know, it's not about racism.
#633788
Bones McCoy wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:43 pm
Not quite sure how this reduced traffic business is going to work.

Not unless Hancock excels himself with a new deadlier variant.
It's the Farage poison which is still in the bloodstream. He was late for an appearance, (fee not disclosed), in Wales because of all the forrins on the M4, 'memba?
#633792
Boiler wrote:
Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:23 pm
Apparently these are the benefits of Brexit, according to a particularly... fervent supporter elsewhere.
So the Brexit deal means we will get the one good bit from the EU ie we can export stuff to them without tariffs but without all the following drawbacks-

1 no millions of pounds in membership fees to pay every year
2 No out of control immigration
3 no subsidies to pay to support other poorer countries
4 no foreign parliament telling us what we are allowed to do
5 no need for MEPs
6 more British fishing industry
7 companies employing more British people
8 reduced population growth leading to cheaper housing, rent or purchase
9 less housebuilding needed ie more green fields
10 reduced traffic on the roads ie less traffic jams
As ever; where do you start?
Classic lump of labour fallacy there.
#633794
The reduced traffic thing. Won't the lack of forrins driving in to work be compensated by all those British* people driving to those jobs no longer done by the forrins?


* For 'British' read 'English' - Gammons couldn't give a toss up about Scottish and Welsh traffic congestion. Or Scottish and Welsh people, for that matter.
#633796
It gets better:
Boris should have just taken back what is 'rightfully' our property, by force at least a year ago and not even bothered to wait for negotiations, rather like Putin decided to take back Crimea.
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