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#636740
Gove says rather more than intended after parliament finally unites over Europe
John Crace

EU’s hallucinatory Northern Ireland episode leaves chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster teetering on moral high ground
In the end, all this honest agreement rather got to Gove and he wound up saying rather more than he intended. Boris Johnson has always maintained that any difficulties with the movement of goods between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK had only ever been teething problems; but Gove suggested the problems were rather more intrinsic and there were issues that had been overlooked in everyone’s haste to get a deal signed off in such a short time frame.

Gove even indicated that some grace periods would need to be extended: something the Northern Ireland minister, Brandon Lewis, had previously said was unthinkable. All of this was soluble, he insisted. Just leave it with him and his EU counterpart, Maroš Šefčovič, to work out. That didn’t sound wholly convincing – the EU triggering article 16 less than a month after the end of the transition period didn’t bode well for the future of the protocol – but no one had any better ideas so Gove was by and large left unchallenged.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ver-europe
#636775
Brexit will be "business as usual", only we won't be giving money to the EU every week. Isn't that what was promised by a certain amphibian-faced former MEP who was transported up the Thames in a flotilla of adoring British fishermen?

EU shellfish import ban indefinite, UK fishing industry told

The EU has told British fishermen they are indefinitely banned from selling live mussels, oysters, clams, cockles and scallops to its member states.

As the UK is now a separate country, it is not allowed to transport the animals to the EU unless they have already been treated in purification plants.

But the industry says it does not have enough tanks ready and the process can slow exports, making them less viable.

The government promised to continue to "raise the issue" with the EU.

Since 1 January, UK firms have been able to send only pre-purified, ready-to-eat shellfish - accompanied by an export health certificate - to buyers in the EU's 27 member states...


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Still, blue passports.
#636778
How would an extension on NI be achieved without it being an extension for Dover, Harwich etc.? Its been a month and the government wants to pull back into the EU's orbit.
Britain has asked for an extension until 2023 of a grace period on checks that would be conducted on trade moving between Northern Ireland and the rest of the United Kingdom to soften the Brexit impact on the province, the BBC reported.

Political editor Laura Kuenssberg said Cabinet Office Secretary Michael Gove had written to the European Commission’s vice president, Maros Sefcovic, to ask for urgent political solutions.

As part of the Brexit divorce deal, the two sides agreed a three-month grace period on checks on food goods being moved by supermarkets and some wholesale groups from Britain to Northern Ireland, to ease the impact of the post-Brexit new rules. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-brit ... SKBN2A312V
#636783
The horse might have learned to talk*.

*Fable from, I think, Tsarist Russia. A man arrives at the court of the Tsar with a horse he claims can talk. When the Tsar asks for proof, the horse just neighs. The man agrees that some work needs doing, and eventually negotiates a deal - he and the horse will be housed in luxury for 3 years, at the end of which the horse will either be able to talk, or the man will be executed.

Asked why he has agreed to this rather than just own up, the man says "Many things could happen in the next 3 years. The Tsar might die. He might forget. I might be busted out by his enemies, or die of overindulgence. Meanwhile, it's easy street for the next 3 years. And you never know, the horse might just learn to talk."
#636785
Boiler wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:54 am
Fish that are happy to be British.
Form an orderly queue for your purification tanks you fish.
Never forget you are British.
#637000
Turns out the road haulage industry knows more about road haulage than Michael Gove does.


"Fury at Gove as exports to EU slashed by 68% since Brexit
Hauliers say Cabinet Office minister ignored warnings, amid fears that worse is to come with introduction of import checks in July"

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... nce-brexit
#637009
oboogie wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:49 pm
Turns out the road haulage industry knows more about road haulage than Michael Gove does.


"Fury at Gove as exports to EU slashed by 68% since Brexit
Hauliers say Cabinet Office minister ignored warnings, amid fears that worse is to come with introduction of import checks in July"

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... nce-brexit
Plenty of people in the haulage industry voted Leave with no idea of the implications. Gove did but chose to lie to them.
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#637011
youngian wrote:
Sun Feb 07, 2021 6:08 am
Plenty of people in the haulage industry voted Leave with no idea of the implications. Gove did but chose to lie to them.
Daniel Hannan, the Tory MEP who is often described as the “godfather of Brexit” repeatedly assured voters that Britain would not leave the single market if they voted to leave the EU.

“Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the single market,” he said.

Owen Paterson, a Tory MP and a prominent campaigner for Vote Leave made similar claims.

“Only a madman would actually leave the market,” Mr Paterson said.

Since the referendum Ms May has repeatedly said that Brexit would mean leaving the single market.

Following the referendum Oliver Norgrove, a former Vote Leave staffer, who supports staying in the single market, urged people to check the official campaign’s website and official literature – noting that the things they had campaigned for were “utterly achievable in the EEA and make no mention at all of leaving the single market”. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 66751.html

"Britain continues in the European free trade zone

'There is a free trade zone stretching from Iceland to Turkey that all European nations have access to, regardless of whether they are in or out of the euro or EU. After we vote to leave we will stay in this zone. The suggestion that Bosnia, Serbia, Albania and the Ukraine would stay part of this free trade area - and Britain would be on the outside with just Belarus - is as credible as Jean-Claude Juncker joining UKIP.

'Agreeing to maintain this continental free trade zone is the simple course and emphatically in everyone’s interests.’"
Michael Gove, 19th April 2016
http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/mic ... leave.html
#637108
Here's your brexit dividend, chaps...
All we have had is bullshit from the government, promises that haven’t been kept. I am winding up the business while I still have enough to pay redundancy to my staff.
Yorkshire lobster exporter says Brexit costs have forced it to close

Government has not been straight with fishing industry, says Sam Baron of Baron Shellfish, Bridlington

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rced-close
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