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By Big Arnold
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http://tyneandwear.sky.com/news/article/25287" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Around 58 staff from the security firm were due to arrive at the Hilton Hotel on Gateshead Quayside on Saturday, July 14, to provide security ahead of the Olympic football teams arriving.

But Sky Tyne and Wear has learned that less than 10 showed up, and Northumbria Police have been forced to fill in
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18856922" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Only 17 of an expected 56 G4S staff turned up for work at an Olympic team hotel in Salford this morning, the chairman of the Greater Manchester Police Authority has said.

As a result, the force has pulled in front-line officers to provide security, Paul Murphy said
By mojojojo
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I bumped into an acquaintance on Saturday night. He has a security pass for the Olympics from G4S as they've offered him work. However he still has no idea when or where this work will be - he told me that he had spent two hours on hold to their offices and when they spoke to him they told him they didn't know when he'd be needed and he'd just have to be patient.

I'm sure people don't turn up because they don't know about it until the last minute. Also if he has to get a train up to London at peak time it'll cost nearly as much as he'd make that day, so why bother?
 
By Tubby Isaacs
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jul/1 ... curity-g4s" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A similar picture was emerging in the West Midlands, where the regional chair of the police federation Ian Edwards said the force had had to provide 150 officers a day to cover a hotel in Warwickshire where Olympic footballers were staying.

Edwards said: "The worst-case scenario is that we end up having to find another 200 officers for the security at the City of Coventry stadium, and we've yet to find out what the shortfall is in Birmingham. It's chaos, absolute chaos. You shouldn't lose your local police officer because of the Olympics. Communities are suffering because a private company has failed to deliver on a contract."

Clive Chamberlain, chairman of Dorset Police Federation, said that although the army had covered for the majority of the shortfall in G4S staff so far, police officers were now being dragged in to fill the gaps.

"On a daily basis it's a lottery as to how many staff are going to turn up. The best they have managed is 15% not turning up, and on the worst occasions they have been 59% down. It's a fiasco, it's an absolute debacle."
 
By Tubby Isaacs
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mojojojo wrote:I bumped into an acquaintance on Saturday night. He has a security pass for the Olympics from G4S as they've offered him work. However he still has no idea when or where this work will be - he told me that he had spent two hours on hold to their offices and when they spoke to him they told him they didn't know when he'd be needed and he'd just have to be patient.

I'm sure people don't turn up because they don't know about it until the last minute. Also if he has to get a train up to London at peak time it'll cost nearly as much as he'd make that day, so why bother?
I think this is bang on the money.

And what about the people who signed up ages ago and have since got better jobs? No way they'll show up.
By Fozzy
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It was always a bit hopeless relying on a private company, wasn't it? The best they could ever offer was a temporary job (unless they subcontracted to established security firms), it stands to reason that anyone who subsequently got a permanent job offer was going to take it, and a private company with an eye on profits was not likely to be prepared to offer the decent wage needed to tempt anyone reasonably reliable. Really it would have made sense to plan from the beginning on the assumption they were going to use the forces for much if not most of the security needed.
 
By Malcolm Armsteen
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Except for an ideological commitment to using private enterprise wherever possible because it's more efficient and cheaper...
By new puritan
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mojojojo wrote:This won't be the fault of G4S though, or the government for giving these cunts the contract. It's the fault of the feckless.
It's perfectly normal for private contractors not to bother with their end of the deal. Honourable, in fact. [/Jeremy Hunt]
By new puritan
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The New Statesman's Alex Andriou has a good piece on the G4S fiasco, workfare, and neoliberal ideology.
We know that G4S is one of the participants in the DWP’s Work Programme from Freedom of Information request 3238/2011. We know that Close Protection UK – the company at the centre of the Jubilee fiasco – are themselves sub-contracted to G4S for Olympic fire safety stewards. We know that workfare placements for the Jubilee were offered as training with the possibility of lucrative Olympics jobs on completion. We know that G4S defended Close Protection UK as an approved contractor who required no further vetting. We know that back in February G4S were advertising Olympic Recruitment with the words “not a job vacancy but you might find it interesting”.

How many thousands of jobless were G4S planning to deploy, either directly or through sub-contractors, before workfare schemes became PR-toxic? Here is a company getting paid an average of £28,000 for each of the 10,000 employees required. With unemployment standing at 2.6m, it is incredible to suggest that staff could not be found and trained for such a well paid seventeen-day engagement.

Much more likely is that the company miscalculated in its attempts to maximise its profit, over-estimated its ability to do things “on the cheap” and the availability of free labour, and spectacularly failed. Another rocket fired into the side of the HMS Private Sector Efficiency from atop a London council block.
http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/voice ... ng-culture" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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