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By mattomac
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You'll see those failing sector types in America enter the market, the likes of Navitas have had to work with established Universities and by such had protection from University regulations and support from advice services provided by a Students' Unions, that will go, all these new universities will be is cheap start ups that will have access to government funding.
 
By Tubby Isaacs
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Universities need to be running schools, apparently.

Credit to OP.:
RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

There's been a call for universities to run academies and some vague threat that if they refuse they won't be allowed to put fees up above £6k.

In the light of that, this probably comes as rather bad timing...

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ome-letter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Summary of main findings
 School improvement strategies developed in the Trust’s first five years have failed to deliver the necessary improvements in pupils’ outcomes, particularly in the secondary sector.
 Only one of the Trust’s seven academies has been judged good in its most recent Ofsted inspection. None are outstanding.
 Standards remain below average in two of the three primary and three of the four secondary academies.
 Where improvements did occur, they proved unsustainable because they were too dependent on temporary external support.
 Pupils’ progress is not good enough, particularly for disadvantaged pupils, including the most able disadvantaged pupils in one primary and three of the four secondary academies. Disadvantaged pupils’ poor progress in mathematics from key stage 2 to key stage 4 is particularly stark.
I've just found an analysis that I did of their schools and found they weren't much cop - dated May 2014...
So that's 2.5 years of not being very good at all.
 
By Messianic Trees
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The Mail have had another go at universities this morning, though if this is the worst they could dredge up...

More disturbing questions about British universities and Brexit as students tell of a graduation ceremony warning about leaving and a master urging students to campaign for another referendum
The master of Downing College urged students to campaign for new referendum
Vote Leave posters were put up University of Warwick but they were pulled down
The revelations come after the furore over Tory whip Chris Heaton-Harris's letter


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... s-two.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Still, the idiots will lap it up:
Pragmatic61, Worthing, United Kingdom

I paid my two kids university. I am contemplating suing the university involved for turning them into two anti patriotic communists. Complete waste of 100k including accommodation and that is a conservative estimate. University did such a good job making them communists they will never earn sufficiently not to burden us into our old age. Any Lawyers out there with advice?
dontbecontrolled, Bristol, United Kingdom

Just imagine the 'outrage' from the left if these same university professors were preaching Christianity to their students instead of Remainism. They would be told in no uncertain terms to keep their opinions to themselves.
kaylal, Enniskillen

Too many Universities, too many silly degrees, such as a degree in puppetry, or a degree on One Direction etc etc etc...too many drunken or/and drugged students, getting into debt simply to party and not learn anything. So many "students" only go to University for the social life...true...cos I know several dozen or so. Education is meant to open minds, to seeing both sides of the coin...not for feeding half drunk students only one point of view. I believe all Universities should be closed, because they're more a detriment to the youth today than a bonus in their lives.
Veteran09, Preston

THE END OF PARLIAMENTARY DEMOCRACY IS NIGH. THE RULE OF HMQE II IS SOON TO BEGIN. IF MPS VOTE NEGATIVELY ON THE BREXIT 'DEAL' AND WANT TO REMAIN - THEN OUR QUEEN CAN STEP IN TO JUDGE AND RULE ON ALL SERIOUS MATTERS; AIDED BY ONLY 24 EXPERT ADVISORS. GOD AND BRITS EXALT AND SAVE THE QUEEN.
 
By youngian
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Education is meant to open minds, to seeing both sides of the coin...

Sadly for him you will learn life is not binary. Stick to watching Noel and his boxes mate.

This ludicrous Mail story has grabbed attention beyond us media watchers. Its a timeless trait of arrogant youth that they think the older generation are clueless idiots but in Brexit Britain its true.
By Andy McDandy
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Sounds a little like that lunatic in Stoke at the last GE (No, not Nuttles, another one).

Thinking about it, this is the time of year they run their "pissed students in regional pissup" pieces. And just when the parents are seeing money go out of the account. Good timing.
 
By Safe_Timber_Man
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I am contemplating suing the university involved for turning them into two anti patriotic communists.

:lol: I do hope that's real.

What this really comes down to is miserable old Mailites struggling with the fact their kids, and young people in general, are now pulling them up on their complete bullshit which they've emotionally invested in for most of their lives.
By mattomac
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I guess what he means by paying his two kids University (Yeah not quite sure that's written correctly) is that he filled in the loans form.

Mind you at least they have an education and can engage (hopefully) in critical thinking, so when their dinosaur of a dad pops off the gene pool will improve somewhat.
By mattomac
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mattomac wrote:You'll see those failing sector types in America enter the market, the likes of Navitas have had to work with established Universities and by such had protection from University regulations and support from advice services provided by a Students' Unions, that will go, all these new universities will be is cheap start ups that will have access to government funding.
Adonis chipped in this morning praising a think tank that has said get rid of interest on loans and increase the wipe out of debt to 50 years, he also praised the criticism of Universities acting like a cartel.

I highlight the above post because this cartel thing has entered the domain with so little challenge. He really knows bloody nothing.
 
By Messianic Trees
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Revealed: How Oxford University is 'home to loud mouthed, Tory-loathing, anti-Israel academics who believe only they should have freedom of expression'
Reverend Canon Nigel Biggar was denounced by colleagues
He had controversially said British Empire was both good and bad
Inquiries suggest a nakedly political agenda has motivated this attack


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... emics.html
 
By Messianic Trees
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For fuck's sake:

Toby Young to help lead government's new universities regulator
The former journalist and free school advocate Toby Young is among a group of business executives who are to help head the government’s drive to apply market forces to higher education in England, as new laws come into force that will regulate universities in the same way as water or gas utilities, according to ministers.

Jo Johnson, the minister for higher education, hailed the new Office for Students (OfS) – which comes into legal existence on Monday – as the answer to concerns over students receiving value for money for their degrees while taking on increasing debt, and opening the sector up to increased competition.

Johnson, who piloted the laws establishing the OfS through parliament, told the Guardian that the demands of consumers and taxpayers needed a heavyweight market regulator that would actively intervene in the same way as Ofwat or Ofcom in water or telecoms.

“It’s a fundamentally different way of looking at how the sector is regulated. It’s a classic marketing regulator, rather than a funding council whose principle job up until now has been to ensure the sector was suitably funded and the financial sustainability of the sector was assured,” Johnson said in an interview to mark the OfS’s launch.

“This is a regulator that is going to be driving value for money in the provision of higher education. That’s a core concern right now for students who are bearing the cost or a significant part of the cost of their higher education.”
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