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By The Red Arrow
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Breaking news...

Child abuse inquiry: Police investigate three alleged murders
The appeal has been made as part of Operation Midland, which stems from allegations made by a man known as "Nick", who says he was abused by a paedophile ring including high-profile people.

He has told police he was taken by car to "parties" where he was abused, including at least one flat in the Dolphin Square estate.

Asked about the claims, Det Supt Kenny McDonald - who is overseeing Operation Midland - said officers who had spoken to him thought his account was "credible and true".
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Is a serious investigation finally underway?
By Esqui
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It certainly seems so
A man who claims to have seen an ex-Tory MP strangle a boy during years of sustained sexual abuse by a VIP paedophile ring has been described as a credible witness by Scotland Yard, as detectives revealed they are investigating three potential child murders.
Five years ago, I would have said nothing would come of it, people would get off the hook. But after seeing the high-profile prosecutions in the wake of the Savile scandal, it does seem that they will go after everyone involved in child abuse, no matter how famous or powerful. It could have pretty major consequences...
 
By Killer Whale
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Really? I can see this dragging out until they're all dead. Only then will the major revelations come out. And, of course, with no court cases there will always be doubt about what really went on. Win-win for the establishment - an impression of openness, but no real harm done. You read it here first. Though I hope I'm wrong.
 
By The Red Arrow
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Loathe as I am to use the source...

PM 'Dismissive' Of Historical Sex Abuse Claims
An MP tells Sky News that David Cameron "wants to move on" from allegations of sexual abuse involving political figures.

http://news.sky.com/story/1394144/pm-di ... use-claims" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
By Malcolm Armsteen
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The media will have got that message, so the police will take their foot off the gas and no-one will call them to account. That's how the establishment works.
 
By youngian
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One of these issues where I prefer to follow the evidence and case development carefully as establishment paedophile cabals attract a gaggle of conspiracy theorists. Add to that backbench rentagobs like Danczuk and Geoffrey Dickens who believe the papers and telly should feature them far more often. Danczuk did write about Cyril Smith but wasn't that cutting and pasting from a man in the right place at the right time?
 
By The Weeping Angel
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Not really he first raised the issue back in 2012 then dispatches broadcast their documentary on Smith. Whilst reading Danczuk's book he says he and his staff interviewed a number of Smith's victims and some of their accounts are in his book about Smith.
 
By Bones McCoy
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The Red Arrow wrote:Loathe as I am to use the source...

PM 'Dismissive' Of Historical Sex Abuse Claims
An MP tells Sky News that David Cameron "wants to move on" from allegations of sexual abuse involving political figures.

http://news.sky.com/story/1394144/pm-di ... use-claims" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It's about time David Cameron kept his bloody gob shut.
 
By Kreuzberger
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I know that Danczuk gets a lot of flack on here. Deservedly so, by the look of it but I am just too unfamiliar with the intricacies to really comment.

On the other hand, he is keeping their feet to the fire on the whole Dolphin Square episode and, unlike Wilson with phone hacking, he has broader media support behind him. I can envisage an editorial bidding war between The Mirror and whoever takes the helm at the Guardy to keep this one burning. Exaro, too, seem to be gaining mainstream coverage for their relentless digging

Which reminds me. This whole Dolphin Square business. At the time in the early 80s, I was working part-time on a fashion magazine and it involved being in that part of town quite often. I remember walking past there on the way to lunch with a fairly prominent restaurateur and being warned that pretty boys would be best advised to "stay this side of the gates". It struck me as notable at the time but it was only two hours later that I was introduced to the joys of aquavit and everything remained buried until, well, the last couple of days really.

I say "notable" and not "seriously fucking scary" because abuse and date-rape were just a fact of life back then. You learned how to navigate the old queens or you got hit and found out the hard way.
 
By The Weeping Angel
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youngian wrote:One of these issues where I prefer to follow the evidence and case development carefully as establishment paedophile cabals attract a gaggle of conspiracy theorists. Add to that backbench rentagobs like Danczuk and Geoffrey Dickens who believe the papers and telly should feature them far more often. Danczuk did write about Cyril Smith but wasn't that cutting and pasting from a man in the right place at the right time?
Also this tends to attracts fuckloons like these lot


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By The Red Arrow
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Westminster child abuse inquiry to hear Margaret Thatcher was presented 'allegations of unnatural sexual proclivities'
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/cr ... 91716.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

More here:

'Unnatural Sex' File Given To Abuse Inquiry
The secret document was not handed over to a review into child abuse, the chief executive of the NSPCC tells Sky News.
http://news.sky.com/story/1411734/unnat ... se-inquiry" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
By The Red Arrow
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4 February 2015 Last updated at 12:54
New Zealand judge Lowell Goddard to lead abuse inquiry
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4 February 2015 Last updated at 12:54
Why the historical child abuse inquiries are in the news
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28189858" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
By The Weeping Angel
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Quick update it turns out that the man who instigated this is a peadophile himself.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/15/man-who-sparked-vip-abuse-ring-inquiry-is-paedophile-court-told?utm_term=Autofeed&CMP=twt_gu&utm_medium=&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1557929850
The man known as “Nick”, whose claims prompted a multimillion-pound Scotland Yard investigation into an alleged VIP abuse ring in Westminster, is a “committed and manipulative paedophile”, a court has heard.

Carl Beech is accused of falsely alleging he was among victims of a group of politicians and senior figures in the military and intelligence services that he claimed raped and murdered boys in the 1970s and 80s.

Now it has emerged in court that Beech is a convicted paedophile who, at the same time as he was claiming to police to be a victim of abuse, viewed indecent images of young boys and covertly recorded a child using the toilet.

The 51-year-old former nurse – referred to as “Nick” during the investigation – concealed the material on a secret calculator app on his iPad, Newcastle crown court heard. When questioned by police about the images and footage, Beech lied to investigators and sought to frame his teenage son for the crime, jurors were told.
There needs to be a lot of soul searching about why so many people fell for this man's lies.
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