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By mattomac
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#205356
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17280647

He is seriously getting desperate, I guess he believes this kind of hypocrisy (His Dad being an Hungarian Immigrant) has worked in the past but it seems the French Left instead of tearing itself apart has settled on Hollande and are backing him. I would love to see the back of people such as Sarkozy I find their kind of hypocrisy beyond repulsive.

Those who vote for Le Pen will probably stay away on the second round, they've had this before and if he was so popular in delivering it they wouldn't have swapped back to Le Pen, meanwhile Le Pen claims that her party are attracting thousands of young voters (Which if true is a worry) However the polling hasn't improved so they've lost loads of older voters and gained loads of younger voters apparently and we all know which section of society are least likely to vote.
#205387
Sarkozy's attempts to woo far-right votes are embarrassing and it looks like the tactic of a beaten man. He's been scraping the bottom of the barrel for weeks though, as evidenced by his recent efforts to rope Angela Merkel into campaigning for him. I don't know a great deal about Hollande, but if he wins it could provide social democratic parties across Europe with a much-needed shot in the arm. He seems to have shown some willingness to get stuck into the banks and apparently recognises the failures of austerity, but a Hollande win is unlikely to go down too well in Berlin if it threats to derail Merkel's fiscal union project.
 
By ezinra
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You're right, over the last few weeks it's been impossible to separate the bluster coming from Sarkozy's party (UMP) and from Le Pen's FN. The non-scandal about halal meat in Parisian school canteens was brought up by Le Pen, but the UMP interior minister Claude Guéant has taken it further and made a policy pledge out of it.

Sarkozy won in 2007 by promising a yet more coercive strategy against what he calls the "scum" of the housing estates; and by openly admiring the supposedly liberal economic model of Britain and the US. The latter, popular during the boom years, is now a liability. All that remains in Sarkozy's favour is some fuzzy notion of 'statemanship' — though despite successes in Libya and the EU, he's never fitted the Gaullian ideal — and this Islamophobic lurch to the right.

Traditionally the FN has prioritised the presidential rather than the legislative elections. This time, Le Pen and her sinister partner/spin doctor Louis Aliot have focused their campaign on a few constituencies where they might conceivably win a majority. The party knows it will never win the presidency, but there's a chance it will one day hold the balance in the national assembly.

Hollande is frankly a poor candidate. He seems like a nice chap and he has a power base within the Parti Socialiste (PS), but he reminds me of a cuddlier John Major. The PS is benefiting from the unpopularity of Sarkozy, from memories of 2002 (when Papa Le Pen scraped into the second-round run-off, forcing everyone on the left to hold their nose and vote for Chirac), and from the surprisingly awful campaign by the Green party candidate, the high-profile anti-corruption prosecutor Eva Joly.
By DTR
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#205905
It begs an interesting ethical question*.

If Le Penn is out of the race then the likelihood is that those hard right voters will back Sarkozey and that would easily be enough to hand him victory. So the question is should PS and PRG polliticians sign for Le Penn candidacy given that it is the best hope of Hollande winning?

* disclaimer, I'm not hugely knowledgable when it comes to French politics so may have not correctly understood the situation.
#206640
Au revoir, Sarko.

Colonel Gaddafi 'gave French President Nicolas Sarkozy £42MILLION to fund his 2007 election campaign'

Nicolas Sarkozy received up to £42million from Colonel Gaddafi to fund his election as French president, it was sensationally claimed today.

Extraordinary evidence made public in Paris is said to prove that the two former close allies had an illegal financial arrangement which propelled Mr Sarkozy to power in 2007.

A governmental briefing note published by Mediapart, the hugely respected investigative website, points to numerous visits to Libya by Mr Sarkozy and his colleagues which were aimed at securing funding.

One, which is referred to in the note as having taken place on October 6, 2005, led to 'campaign finance to NS (Nicolas Sarkozy)' being 'totally solved'.

At the time Mr Sarkozy was an ambitious Interior Minister who was raising money for his presidential election campaign, even though taking cash from a notorious tyrant would have broken political financing laws.

Mediapart claims that €50million referred to in the note was laundered through bank accounts in Panama and Switzerland.

The Swiss account was opened in the name of the sister of Jean-Francois Cope, the leader of Mr Sarkozy's ruling UMP party, and the President's right-hand-man.

The money was then distributed through an arms dealer called Ziad Takieddine, who was used to acting as a middle man between Arab despots and French politicians.

The revelations follow Gaddafi's son and former heir, Saif-Al Islam Gaddafi, last year stating unambiguously that Libya had financed Mr Sarkozy’s election.
#206650
A large section of the British right hates Sarko for his pomposity, his superstar wife and because he seems to think Cameron is a no-mark (fair play to him on that score), so it's no surprise to see the Mail sticking the boot in really. They don't seem to have given that much thought to who might replace him, though.
#206893
Marine le Pen has made it on to the ballot - bad news for Sarkozy as he's been doing his level best to scoop up her supporters. He'll still make it through to the second round without too much trouble, but the presence of le Pen should at least keep the right-wing vote nicely split.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... idate.html

There's a new poll putting Sarkozy narrowly ahead of Hollande in first-round voting intentions, according to Bloomberg. He's still 9% behind Hollande when it comes to the second round, though.
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