Discussion of the more serious side of the Mail's agenda
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By bluebellnutter
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Just as a reminder, this is what Mel Phillips said when challenged by Kevin Arscott from Angry Mob

(Read in order for best effect)

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By oboogie
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MacGuffin wrote:The Mail's admission today was in response to a complaint about something Mel P had said. The complaint was made by a regular reader of my blog and I have all the correspondence. Needless to say, the Mail didn't roll over very easily at first.

Sorry for the blog plug, but here's how it happened:

http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2011/ ... me-or.html
Nice one.
Reading through your blog their volte face does seem rather odd as they didn't put up much of a fight. perhaps it's the effect of Leveson Inquiry.
By MacGuffin
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oboogie wrote:
MacGuffin wrote:The Mail's admission today was in response to a complaint about something Mel P had said. The complaint was made by a regular reader of my blog and I have all the correspondence. Needless to say, the Mail didn't roll over very easily at first.

Sorry for the blog plug, but here's how it happened:

http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2011/ ... me-or.html
Nice one.
Reading through your blog their volte face does seem rather odd as they didn't put up much of a fight. perhaps it's the effect of Leveson Inquiry.
I have my own theory about why the first response was so aggressive and then the tone changed, although must admit it's just a gut feeling. It's to do with the 'not about Christmas Day' strawman, which was in the Mail's initial response and was something Phillips said in reply to Kevin (see bluebellnutter's post, above). That (and the insults) suggests to me she had had some input into that first letter but, as I said, I have no hard evidence for that.
 
By Malcolm Armsteen
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This, from today's Independent:
The grinch that lies about Christmas

The Daily Mail "clarifications & corrections" column is shaping up to be the best part of the newspaper. Yesterday's began with the words "we stated in an article on 26 September that Christmas has been renamed Winterval" – before admitting that the story was junk.

They could have added that it was not the first time they had run this story. It appeared in the Mail on 4 January this year, three times in 2010, once in 2009, twice in 2008, four times in 2007, 11 times in 2006 and eight times in 2005. While 2004 was a sort of Winterval gap year, the story appeared twice in 2003, once in 2002, once in 2001, and four times in 2000, after its debut on 9 November 1998. That is exactly 40 times in all.

Interviewed in the Mail in 2006, David Cameron answered those non-existent people who would scrap Christmas. "It's ridiculous pretending we have to call it Winterval," he declared.

All this because 13 years ago, Birmingham Council organised a run of events, taking in Christmas and New Year, called Winterval.
Nice. But why has it all taken so long?
By Tom_UK
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Most of the papers have been guilty of spreading the Winterval myth in the past, including the Independent, though not to anything like the extent of the Mail. A bit of collective introspection from all of the newspapers would be be good here, because they have all fallen for this at one time or another, from the Star to the Guardian.
 
By Malcolm Armsteen
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It seems we aren't alone. In the USA the myth is that the White House Christmas trees have been re-named 'Holiday Trees'...

Here is Snopes:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/christmas/ornaments.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
By Fflaps
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The Daily Mash's horoscope for Pisces this week is good
Pisces (20 FEB-20 MAR)
This week why not have fun with all your Daily Mail-reading colleagues by sending them Winterval cards and erecting ‘Winterval bunting’ made of Amnesty International leaflets around the office?
 
By Tubby Isaacs
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MacGuffin wrote:The Mail's admission today was in response to a complaint about something Mel P had said. The complaint was made by a regular reader of my blog and I have all the correspondence. Needless to say, the Mail didn't roll over very easily at first.

Sorry for the blog plug, but here's how it happened:

http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2011/ ... me-or.html
Brilliant stuff!
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