Discussion of the more serious side of the Mail's agenda
:thumbsup: 14.3 % 😯 28.6 % 😟 42.9 % :cry: 14.3 %
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#530344
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... t-campaign
The British army has been accused of bowing to political correctness after launching a campaign to recruit more people from a diversity of genders, sexualities, ethnicities and faiths.

In a series of animations released on social media, the campaign positively answers questions such as “Can I be gay in the army?” and “What if I get emotional in the army?”.

A frame taken from the ad that asks ‘What if I get emotional in the army?’ Photograph: British army/PA
Other videos in the £1.6m campaign ask: “Can I practise my faith in the army?” and “Will I be listened to in the army?”, and “Do I have to be a superhero to join the army?”.

Gen Nick Carter, the chief of the general staff, said the army needed to appeal to people beyond its traditional cohort of young, white men.
Seems a good idea. However, step forward Colonel Blimp...
However, the retired colonel Richard Kemp, a former commander of British operations in Afghanistan, said the campaign would not solve the army’s recruitment problem.

“The army, like the rest of government, is being forced down a route of political correctness,” he told BBC Breakfast. “What is most important is that the army is full of soldiers. It is of secondary importance that they reflect the composition of society.”

He claimed that what attracted recruits was images of fighting.
"Feelings? Freedom to be themselves? Pah. It's the promise of killing darkies they're wanting."
#530345
Army cadet groups tend to be popular among BME teenagers. Then you hear stories of bullying from junior officers along the lines of "What are you doing here, shouldn't you be on the other side?" and you wonder where the problem is.
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#530369
Haven't the Legion, Help for Heroes and other charities been raising awareness of the psychological problems ex-military face and that we should give generously instead of dismissing them as nutjobs and losers?

The recruitment spokesperson explained that there isn't enough people from the traditional recruiting base; white working-class teenagers. Or rather they've more tempting offers doesn't involve some shouty wanker on your case all day to fight wars they don't give a toss about.
#530372
Boiler wrote:Once upon a time, entering the Forces was a 'last resort' occupation.
Once upon a time there was no such thing as minimum-wage short-term zero-hours contracts and the job market for school-leavers was reasonably healthy.

Before the Dark Times.

Before the Tories.
#530393
It's notable that the broadcast media have found plenty of retired staff officers to comment on the outrage of PC.
They must have scoured Tunbridge Wells in their efforts.

Invalided out Squaddies, or those struggling for accommodation, have not been asked for their opinions.
Which is odd, because they're the ones that the press keep telling us we should be thinking about.
#530400
Kemp was on BBC Breakfast this morning. Absolute car crash. Couldn't shut up about how "images of combat" were practically the greatest recruiting tool since a shilling in the bottom of a glass.

As with people constantly obsessing over sex and sexual imagery for the sake of public morals, I'd genuinely wonder about his stability. As Marie Lloyd proved, it's all in the eye of the beholder.
#530421
Samanfur wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:51 pm
Kemp was on BBC Breakfast this morning. Absolute car crash. Couldn't shut up about how "images of combat" were practically the greatest recruiting tool since a shilling in the bottom of a glass.

As with people constantly obsessing over sex and sexual imagery for the sake of public morals, I'd genuinely wonder about his stability. As Marie Lloyd proved, it's all in the eye of the beholder.
An odd contrast with recent TV ads where - with the exception of the young lad getting a cuppa inside a soggy tent - you'd think that soldiering was all about nighclubs and tropical beaches.
#530438
mr angry manchester wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:32 pm
The forces is something which I would never entertain under any circumstances. I would be asking “why?” all the time.
With me moping around in the background complaining that it's all bollocks, Malcolm screaming "Dunning-Kruger!" at the enemy and Abernathy indulging in BUMSEX in the trenches while Andy draws comparisons with forgotten episodes of GoT, I think that the armed forces are probably better off without the Mailwatch Regiment.
#530440
Who do you think you are kidding Mr Dacre?
If you think we're on the run...
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#530442
Me and my pal Chris tried to join up. We'd been drinking a bit, and we toddled along to take the shilling, but the office was closed for lunch. So we went and got incapable. Or even more so.

When we sobered up it didn't seem like such a great idea. So we never went back. He went to the Imperial War Museum (head of exhibits) and I went teacher training.

This was 1965. My hippy phase...
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