Discussion of the more serious side of the Mail's agenda
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#272038
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Thousands of children in England are at high risk of sexual exploitation – and in half the cases, the impact of online porn is partly to blame, a devastating report found last night.

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The study by Sue Berelowitz, the deputy children’s commissioner, into sexual exploitation by urban gangs found that the ‘use and impact’ of pornography was a major factor in 48 per cent of interviews with abuse victims and perpetrators.
Directly above it on the home page:

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A report into gang sex abuse came under fire yesterday for concluding there was no particular problem among Asian groups.

The study by deputy children’s commissioner Sue Berelowitz came to the controversial conclusion, despite figures in her own report revealing that more than a quarter of perpetrators of gang-based child abuse known to the authorities are Asian.

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Last night a Government source said it was ‘difficult to overstate the contempt’ with which ministers viewed the report’s conclusions.

And the NSPCC said the report exposed the danger of ‘turning a blind eye’ to the ethnicity of abusers.

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A Government source said: ‘It is difficult to overstate the contempt the Government has for the methodology and analysis in this report. The whole thing is half-baked.’
All on the same day!
#272078
So, because the report found that in its sample, whites constituted the largest ethnicity group of abusers, it's accused of ignoring Asian abusers, or downplaying the significance of... them being Asian?

Unless they have a hard reason for pointing out idiosyncracies in 'Asian' behaviour in regards abuse of young people, what is their point? Cos from here it looks like they're doing the ignoring in favour of peddling shit-stirring BNP-bait.

Is there a particular problem with 'white society' if the largest group they found abusing was white? If not, why the same for people of Asian origin?

If you're talking about relative population size, then possibly: do they provide that? I highly doubt it; even if they were able to I sincerely doubt you'd see a proportion significantly larger than any demographic average. If you do, then the reasons are surely more sophisticated than the average fuckwit would want to consider - and worrying, nonetheless.

Let's ignore commonalities of abuse, and instead blame it on skin and Muzzies.
#272116
The Deputy Children's Commissioner, responsible for today's report:
"This is a not a problem within one particular faith or ethnic group: our evidence shows the reality is much more troubling. We found the perpetrators of abuse tended to mirror the makeup of the local population, so where the population was mainly white, the abusers were mainly white; and where other ethnic groups lived, the perpetrators were likewise. There have been recent high-profile cases of Pakistani men abusing white girls, but focusing purely on this pattern of abuse is dangerous. It has inevitably meant that both victims and abusers from other ethnicities have been overlooked. Those who perpetrate these crimes come from every community and every level in society."
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#272123
cycloon wrote:So, because the report found that in its sample, whites constituted the largest ethnicity group of abusers, it's accused of ignoring Asian abusers, or downplaying the significance of... them being Asian?

Unless they have a hard reason for pointing out idiosyncracies in 'Asian' behaviour in regards abuse of young people, what is their point? Cos from here it looks like they're doing the ignoring in favour of peddling shit-stirring BNP-bait.

Is there a particular problem with 'white society' if the largest group they found abusing was white? If not, why the same for people of Asian origin?

If you're talking about relative population size, then possibly: do they provide that? I highly doubt it; even if they were able to I sincerely doubt you'd see a proportion significantly larger than any demographic average. If you do, then the reasons are surely more sophisticated than the average fuckwit would want to consider - and worrying, nonetheless.

Let's ignore commonalities of abuse, and instead blame it on skin and Muzzies.
Sample size is too small to make any kind of conclusions. Won't stop the mailtards though!
#272124
And just to prove they're not anti-"Muslamic", they've also commissioned this piece from Yasmin Alibhai-Brown:

Why as a Muslim and a mother I believe it's so damaging to hide from the truth about Asian sex gangs

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Here is what Sue Berelowitz, the Deputy Children’s Commissioner who led the inquiry, has to say: 'Perpetrators come from all ethnic groups, and so do their victims — contrary to what some may wish to believe.'

Yes, we know they come from all backgrounds. But that rather cutting second line is directed at people like me who believe that in some British cities — especially in the North of England — circles of sexual hell for young girls are run by gangs of Muslim men (most of Pakistani or Bangladeshi heritage) who mostly prey on white girls.
The top-rated comment, however, gives the game away:
What does the BNP or EDL have to do with anything? Why is there a picture of the stereotypical 'racist white skinhead' needed in this report? Correct me if I'm wrong, but did the BNP not tell us 10 years ago that this was happening and people like Yasmin openly abused them and called them 'racists' for doing so? Maybe if you'd have listened we could have stopped this by now?
- SheffieldSteel, Sheffield, 21/11/2012 8:10
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