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By Bones McCoy
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Something of a tangent, but the misconceptions around PE at school highlight a similar level of Dunning-Kruger.

When I (and many parents) were at school, there were CSEs in PE.
The general impression given at my school was that you did this if you were too dense for the woodwork class.
The lasting impression was lost of cross country and obscure gymnastics supervised by a Mister Sugden character.

30 years on, #1 son had an option of PE as "Recreational or Examined".
The staff went to some length to tell all the parents that the exam contained large written elements.
It was an excellent class, incorporating elements of performance (Practical), Leadership (Coaching) and Sports science.

#1 son loved the class and followed it to higher level.
But there was always the minority of parents who'd grumble that there was "Too much writing, why can't they just play football".
By satnav
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My son is currently doing 'A' level PE the course appears to be about 80% theory 20% practical. Most of the theory stuff looks more like Biology that PE.

Even GCSE has a lot of theory it look at muscles groups, breathing and types of exercise. Pupils with poor literacy skills usually struggle to cope with the course.
By Malcolm Armsteen
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Yup. A lot of anatomy, stuff about leisure and sports in the leisure economy.

I was once invigilating a GCSE PE exam, and the teacher (a great guy) had taught them their anatomy kinaesthetically, when they needed to recall the name or location of a bone or muscle they touched it. When they got to that part of the exam thirty kids were simultaneously pointing, very seriously, at their divers body parts.

Well, exams aren't chock full of humorous moments...
By youngian
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It is not accidental that a society officially obsessed with ‘health and safety’ is not in fact very good at either health or safety. The common sense of the residents of this block was greater than that of those who built it and ran it. It should, obviously, never have been built in the first place. People should live in houses with gardens, not in supersized filing cabinets in the sky.
Its good enough for Trump. High rise living is popular if its good quality and safe. Not everyone wants garden gnomes Peter. Some nifty foot work on H&S.

A respectful piece but with space to fill for a moan about modern life.
We know why, of course. The country is, fundamentally, run on the cheap. Cheap wages, borrowed money, skimped and half-finished schemes, leaky pipes, overloaded cables, inadequate training, rotten basic education, ancient infrastructure stretched to the limit and then beyond.

And much of it is controlled by unaccountable companies or bureaucracies that cannot be contacted, whose owners are often thousands of miles away.

Your late train (yet again), your moody broadband, your absent, invisible police force, your potholed road, your dodgy bank and your unreachable phone company, are all part of the same thing – a country living beyond its means that thinks it is richer and more important and more civilised than it is, and so neglects the basics of life while concentrating on how it looks.

It continues to amaze me that we spent a large chunk of the Election campaign discussing the renewal of our grandiose and unusable Trident missile system, which allegedly protects us from enemies we don’t have in a war which ended 26 years ago. And that we think we are so great and wonderful and important that we can launch wars in Iraq, Libya and Syria. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... z4kObwFBgk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
By Bones McCoy
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Peter's latent "Young Trot" has got loose again.
By Arnold
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PETER HITCHENS: Plenty of people hate me for daring to point it out. Tough. I'll say it once again: Most of this dreadful violence has nothing to do with terrorism

The huge billionaire lobby for cannabis legalisation also hate what I say. If their beloved drug really is linked with criminal murder, then their campaign will fail, and the giant profits they hope for will never be made.
And existing drug manufacturers, who in truth know

So he's against tobacco too, Right? Wrong!
But the new film about him, starring Brian Cox is absolutely, shockingly bad and wrong. It invents stuff. It is as phoney as the electric cigars it uses instead of the real thing in the many ‘scenes of smoking’ which viewers are warned of at the start.

Finding actors who smoke nowadays can't be easy. Why should they have to just for historical accuracy?

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By Samanfur
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The principle of Guy Gibson's dog strikes again (Mr. McDandy explains it here).
By youngian
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But the new film about him, starring Brian Cox is absolutely, shockingly bad and wrong. It invents stuff. It is as phoney as the electric cigars it uses instead of the real thing in the many ‘scenes of smoking’ which viewers are warned of at the start.
Some of it is small, such as a fictional event in which his long-suffering wife Clemmie slaps him across the face.
But the central suggestion, that he pestered Dwight Eisenhower to call off the D-Day landings in the last few hours before they were launched, is surely tripe of the first order.
It is true that he never wanted a frontal assault on Hitler’s West Wall. It could have gone terribly wrong. But in the end, he gave in to pressure from Stalin and the Americans.
This invention allows the film-makers to portray him as a foolish, drink-soaked, humiliated old fool, despised by his generals and lost in the past.
Like a lot of right wingers confuse facts with drama's purpose to tell truths.

I did see Churchill and Brian Cox made the man his own rather than doing a growly impersonation. It showed Churchill sentimentality, steeliness, natural gift for leadership and capacity for poor decision making. The film's main idea was Churchill wrestling with his guilt over Gallipoli and his depression setting in as he fears the worse over D Day. But Hitchens also missed the sub-text (and what really bugged him) of Churchill's sad realisation that the days British global imperial power, that did so much to cling onto in myth, was finished. It felt contemporary and I recognised the writer historian Alex von Tunzelmann‏ who is veciforous and unswerving Remain campaigner.
By Arnold
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Want a new passport? Then be prepared to unfasten your trousers: PETER HITCHENS says he was presumed guilty at his appointment
By Peter Hitchens For Mail On Sunday

Translation :Belt triggered metal detector.

For dull but sensible reasons, I needed to go to Her Majesty’s Passport Office in person, to get a new passport

Translation :Left renewing it until the day before his holiday.

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By youngian
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And four hours later, I collected the passport – not the elegant, understated symbol of a free man’s liberty to travel that it used to be,
By free man he means a self-entitled colonial English white man who only believes in liberty when he sets the rules
By Arnold
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And he writes for a paper that supports taking away our rights to travel and live in mainland Europe.
By davidjay
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I can sympathise up to a point. Officialdom does tends to treat the common herd as though we deserve no better nowadays.
By Projective Unity
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I found getting my first passport a piece of piss. Photos were done in a booth for a fiver and sent the application using check and send. Was interviewed at the passport office by a young lad and was out after half an hour. Got my passport two days later. Certainly wasn't the torturous ordeal that poor Mr Hitchens had to endure.
By Arnold
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His suffering was due to his need for a passport the same day. Which in my book was self inflicted.
By Boiler
My current passport was done 'on the day' due to employment reasons, of all things - but again, the experience was nothing like the one Mr. H. recalls. All done and dusted in a couple of hours but at a higher price than usual, natch; but my goodness, the biometric bit has been useful.
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