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By Arnold
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PETER OBORNE: Tragedy that lays bare the challenge of uniting a divided Britain

So how do we do that? More austerity of course.

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PETER OBORNE: The myth of austerity means that the Left is howling for an end to cuts that never went far enough

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By Andy McDandy
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Funnily enough lots of people pointed out that public spending and debt were soaring throughout the last 7 years with no visible return. But that wasn't part of the narrative then, was it?
 
By Arnold
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A year on, and how Theresa May can turn it around: PETER OBORNE says the PM retains a granite-strong integrity and sense of public duty

Mr Corbyn’s accusation about a divided society was also nailed as a lie. Analysis showed the UK has the third most equal income distribution in the G7 group of developed nations. In blunt terms, the gap between rich and poor has shrunk under the Conservatives.
Also, David Cameron’s friends have still not forgotten or forgiven Mr Johnson’s brave and principled decision to campaign for Brexit.
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By youngian
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Oborne suggests May needs a Brexit Willie Whitelaw to back her up
The choice I prefer, however, is former Home Secretary and one-time party leader Michael Howard. Both courageous and loyal, he has consummate political skills, an intellect undimmed by age, and strongly held pro-Brexit views.
Michael 'bomb the dagos' Howard
 
By Arnold
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How Theresa May can seize back the initiative: PETER OBORNE urges the PM to keep calm and carry on
She must remind voters — and hysterical Corbyn acolytes — that under the Tories almost half of Britons pay no income tax at all, while the richest shoulder the biggest burden on record.

Nobody is stopping Oborne asking Dacre to cut his pay to £11,500 a year so that he pays no tax either.

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By youngian
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Oborne's providing the Tories food for thought. It'll be interested to know how many sons and daughters of EU citizens will be voting in the next decade.

He cited the shocking statistic that 85 percent of Muslims voted for Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour at the last election, with just 11 percent supporting the Conservative Party. (Incidentally, this is even worse than Labour’s problem with the Jewish community, 13 percent of which said that it would vote for Jeremy Corbyn in June.)

The mayor of London Sadiq Khan delivers a speech at the Labour Party Conference in Brighton, Britain, September 25 2017 (Reuters)

He provided cogent analysis showing that the Conservative failure to appeal to Muslims cost it a large number of key marginal seats - such as in Bedford, Keighley and Peterborough. Each of these previously Conservative seats contains between 5,000 and 10,000 Muslim voters. In June, Labour won each of them by fewer than 800 votes.
 
By Bones McCoy
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OK Pete, but if you start being nice to the Muslims, how mant "Traditional core" votes will you lose.


You'd like to think the answer would be zero, but none of the membership who know their party seem prepared to do the right thing.
 
By Arnold
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Arnold wrote:A year on, and how Theresa May can turn it around: PETER OBORNE says the PM retains a granite-strong integrity and sense of public duty

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Four months on and more brown-nosing.
PETER OBORNE: Why May's heartfelt crusade to help families will restore her fortune
Yet the truth is that Mrs May, a fundamentally decent woman who is utterly committed to the betterment of Britain, still has the chance to fight back.
She's done SFA to help Britain since the Referendum. Brexit means she never can.

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By Messianic Trees
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From the same piece:
With Cabinet ministers falling like ninepins, the reputation of one leading Tory grows by the day.

Unlike so many of his colleagues, Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt is a safe pair of hands. He inherited a failing department from Andrew Lansley and has turned it round.

Crucially, he's also earned the respect of doctors, nurses, other medical staff as well as NHS officials. And yet there is little praise in Westminster for Mr Hunt, who is one of the Tory Government's great success stories. Instead, amid frenzied chatter about a major Cabinet reshuffle, Home Secretary Amber Rudd is being extolled.

It is even suggested that she could switch to the Treasury if Philip Hammond's Budget belly-flops like his last one. For all her popularity in some areas of the media, Ms Rudd is a political novice, her business career has come under scrutiny because of her involvement with two companies in an offshore tax haven and she only has a majority of 346 in her Sussex constituency.

By contrast, Mr Hunt is a hardened professional. Now is the time for the shrewd to invest in shares in Jeremy Hunt!
 
By Bones McCoy
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Messianic Trees wrote:From the same piece:
With Cabinet ministers falling like ninepins, the reputation of one leading Tory grows by the day.

Unlike so many of his colleagues, Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt is a safe pair of hands. He inherited a failing department from Andrew Lansley and has turned it round.

Crucially, he's also earned the respect of doctors, nurses, other medical staff as well as NHS officials. And yet there is little praise in Westminster for Mr Hunt, who is one of the Tory Government's great success stories. Instead, amid frenzied chatter about a major Cabinet reshuffle, Home Secretary Amber Rudd is being extolled.

It is even suggested that she could switch to the Treasury if Philip Hammond's Budget belly-flops like his last one. For all her popularity in some areas of the media, Ms Rudd is a political novice, her business career has come under scrutiny because of her involvement with two companies in an offshore tax haven and she only has a majority of 346 in her Sussex constituency.

By contrast, Mr Hunt is a hardened professional. Now is the time for the shrewd to invest in shares in Jeremy Hunt!
More like "shares in wherever Jeremy's current back-channel leads".
Recall that "Safe pair of hands" Hunt, did precisely what Priti Patel was castigated for, (but substitute Murdochs for Israelis).
The latest back-channels are more likely to be US based healthcare "providers".

It's also common knowledge that the Doctors, nurses and other medical staff refer to him by his nickname - "Warwick".

Luckily for thee, Boiler has no imagination.

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