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By mr angry manchester
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Boiler wrote:I think the BBC's Target used to attract a lot of opprobrium for being gratuitously violent.
Yes, it did. I actually thought it was a bit crap too.
 
By youngian
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The best cop drama of the period was G F Newman's Law and Order which made the Met and the home secretary so angry the BBC locked it away for 30 yrs and told not to sell it abroad. It was like a prototype Wire and made in the dying days of the PC Dixon myths of the honest copper. I am told Dixon of Dock Green is much less cosy than its reputation and is worth a look.
 
By youngian
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In my case, it was when half the coppers at a retired CID officers’ dinner I was addressing seemed to be younger than me.
Another guest at that dinner was Graham Cole, who played PC Tony Stamp in the classic ITV police drama, The Bill.
Who said Dickie can't get a gig. I noticed he is absent from the photos of the Bill actors who attended. Eric Richards is a very committed socialist I bet he hates LJ.

Trudie Goodwin/June Ackland used to be the telling off voice on the Croydon tram. I didn't twig who it was at first but knew it was an authoritative voice who had your number.
 
By youngian
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Boiler wrote:I think the BBC's Target used to attract a lot of opprobrium for being gratuitously violent.


That looks bad is Patrick Mower Inspector Monkfish?
 
By Andy McDandy
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mr angry manchester wrote:The Sweeney didn't either. Regan never beat anyone up in the interview room, although he could be a bit rough when making an arrest.

Dickie is confusing programmes like The Bill etc with Life on Mars, where Gene Hunt used to randomly attack people
I sense that for all he claims to have an encyclopedic knowledge of his favourite shows, Dickie's viewing them through a heavy nostalgia filter. I agree with you and LJB that The Bill, The Sweeney etc could be more subtle than one might think, but it's fairly clear from Dickie's outpourings, he's the sort of cunt who'd rename Red Riding The Good Old Days.

For him it's all about expressions of rather crude, blokey masculinity. Be it bacon banjos or defiantly smoking, laughing at 'soft' people or waxing lyrical over the days when Nick Berry and Mr Derek would give Greengrass a working over in the cells, it all comes from the same space. The days when the white English bloke had an automatic leg up are coming to a close and he can't handle it.
By mr angry manchester
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Yes, he's just projected his own narrow views onto the programmes and imagines them differently to what actually was in them. The thing with characters like Burnside and Regan is that they were hard when they needed to be, but weren't like that all the time.

Littlejohn would just go round being a cunt to people who couldn't fight back and would then come up against a proper hard nut and go to pieces. A bit like Vinny Jones did in football.
 
By Andy McDandy
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Indeed. I remember when Bob Hoskins died he did a piece on The Long Good Friday, which was basically just quoting lines with no regard to their actual context. He seemed to miss out that the 'hero' was a pugnacious, self important, racist, homophobic bully who got quickly out of his depth when confronted by people who knew what they were doing.
By mr angry manchester
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Its sort of tied in a bit with the Brexit mentality too, you know the "we used to rule a lot of the world" kind of thing. Britain, due to the Empire, had about 200 years of punching above our weight and, largely, getting away with it.

Its time to keep our heads down now and let the big boys get on with it, which I think we actually did during the 60s and 70s, (probably between Suez and The Falklands) but the Littledicks of this world don't want that, they are like the gobby kid at the back of the class, always shouting with an opinion on something, which is bollocks 99% of the time, but wont shut up.
 
By Littlejohn's brain
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It's interesting that Littlejohn complains about the show dealing with racism, homophobia and sexism when in its early days The Bill would deal with those issues. It wasn't afraid to show regularly characters exhibiting such attitudes. In the early episodes one police officer referred to a black police officer as 'Snowball'.
 
By youngian
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mr angry manchester wrote:Its sort of tied in a bit with the Brexit mentality too, you know the "we used to rule a lot of the world" kind of thing. Britain, due to the Empire, had about 200 years of punching above our weight and, largely, getting away with it.
Yep the English Brexiter mentality is: "I want, I want, I want" but our mums told us when were five years old in the sweet shop; "I want doesn't get." But I was only told that once whereas Michel Barnier has to say it 10 times before it gets through. The Tories will be back after the break with a more touchy feely co-operative mood towards negotiation in order to get something done having learned the hard the world doesn't revolve around them. If they learned that in the first place there would be no Brexit.
 
By Andy McDandy
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No link but today he poses as a "jobbing hack" and has a whinge at people complaining about things. Apparently online petitions aren't real.
By mr angry manchester
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I thought that Littledick's job was to complain about things anyway?

Confused and looking for logic
 
By Littlejohn's brain
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I thought he'd be given us his hilarious thoughts about Big Ben?
By Watchman
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Littlejohn's brain wrote:I thought he'd be given us his hilarious thoughts about Big Ben?

Well worry ye not....we have an extra instalment today!
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