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By Malcolm Armsteen
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mr angry manchester wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:05 pm
Star Trek references presumably constitute Sci Fi, do they not?
No. It's a comment about the allegorical use of language, using allegory, and using the specific allegories that refer to not understanding because of insufficient shared contextual experience and to explaining that said allegory was the answer.

The word 'boat' appears in Moby Dick. That doesn't mean that all boats are linked to whales.
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By Andy McDandy
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If you've not seen the Martin Scorsese classic, "Casino", it charts the rise and fall of a casino manager in 1970s Las Vegas, and that of his gangster friend played by Joe Pesci.

At the start of the story, Pesci's character is a vicious and brutal gangster, quick to anger and capable of dropping an enemy in one well aimed punch. By the end though, high living and complacency have taken their toll. He's overweight, addicted to drugs, and utterly burned out. He's so set in his routines that he doesn't realise how much information he's giving away to police listening in. He's so assured of his position that he doesn't realise how mad the mafia bosses are with him.

That's the parallel I was trying to make.
By mr angry manchester
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It's an excellent film and Pesci is very good in it. I understand the parallel between Littlejohn and the character you make, before the discussion veered off into obscurity
 
By Cyclist
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This is a classic example of why Shittlejhon is so popular - his references chime with his audience. They 'get' what he's saying straight away. He uses the lowest common denominator of "retro" popular culture. Everybody over a certain age is aware of Minder, The Sweeney, Dad's Army etc. No complicated explanations (which his readers probably wouldn't understand anyway) are necessary.
By mr angry manchester
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I've more to with life than be talked down to in a condescending manner. I am still unemployed, have the worry of putting food on the table, providing for a 12 year old in his first year at high school, last week I had to ask a friend for a bit to keep me going until the UC payment hit.

Anyway, I'm sure that the struggle of someone who has been working for 40 years and is now on the scrapheap is of no consequence to the chattering classes is it?

Fuck it, I'm off
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