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By Andy McDandy
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Bercow, why feel sorry for dead blacks or chavs, brainy women - cows, and what's a little gang rape between friends?

By Projective Unity
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Silent majority bollocks.
Classy as usual
We even have to put up with the Irish Republic's Lenny Verruca and his gobby trade commissioner laying down the law. And they're not even part of the Union.
By Andy McDandy
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In which he tries to do an extended metaphor between the Labour conference and Quadrophenia, with mixed* results. Much cribbing off IMD boosts the word count.

*In that theres a difference between woeful, shite, and piss-poor.
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By SoulBoy
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Given the amount of recreational pharmaceuticals that the main protagonists knock back in Quadrophenia, wouldn't the Tory cabinet be a better metaphor?
By Safe_Timber_Man
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He's been wheeled out to write another column in which he displays he's complete lack of understand of what's going on. That's TWO in a week. He's going to need a lie down and a holiday.

RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: Why don't we drag John Bercow in front of the Supreme Court?

What you have to get through your thick heads, you easily led, Leave-voting morons, is that this ruling wasn’t about Brexit.

Goodness me, no. Perish the thought. We have the unimpeachable assurance of no less a figure than Lady Hale, President of the Supreme Court.

Handing down the unanimous decision of all 11 justices, she was keen to emphasise: ‘These cases are not about when and on what terms the United Kingdom is to leave the European Union.’

We are most grateful for the clarification, m’lady. Otherwise we may have got the wrong impression.

Watching the self-styled Remain Alliance bouncing up and down on the steps of the court afterwards, we could have been forgiven for concluding this judgment had everything to do with Brexit.

The Usual Suspects were all there: Soubry Loo, that Green madwoman, the porky pub bore from the SNP, Chucky Umunna — celebrating like the crew of the Starship Enterprise on shore leave.

If this wasn’t about Brexit, what were they doing there?

If this wasn’t about Brexit, why did arch-Remainer Gina Miller bring her case in the first place?

Why, otherwise, were they so violently opposed to Boris Johnson suspending Parliament for five weeks?

It’s not as if any of them have ever objected before to having more than a month off.

In the 40-odd years I’ve been writing about politics, I can’t remember Parliament ever sitting in September.

The House would break up in the summer and not reconvene until after the party conference season in October.

So what was the big deal? MPs are being ‘silenced’, they screamed. If only. They never shut up. No, the real reason they were feigning outrage is that Boris would have denied them a few extra days to frustrate Brexit.

Not that the submissions before the court reflected that. The plaintiffs insisted they were simply interested in defending parliamentary sovereignty.

The only reason Gina Miller is so keen on Parliament is that her best chance of blocking Brexit altogether lies with the overwhelming number of Remainer MPs determined to overturn the result of the 2016 referendum.

This is the wealthy businesswoman who said that when she realised Britain had voted Leave she felt physically sick.

That shouldn’t give her and her rich backers, many of whom live abroad, carte blanche to use the courts in a shameless attempt to block a democratic vote by 17.4 million people. Not once but twice.

What we’re seeing here is rich man’s justice, in which cases can only be brought by those with the deepest pockets. They can afford the best lawyers and finance legal action right up to the Supreme Court.

Risibly, they claim to be ‘defending democracy’ — the same dishonest excuse trotted out by fanatical Remainers in the Commons, including the nominally independent Speaker, who was unable to contain his smug delight at yesterday’s ruling.

Yet I wonder how many of John Bercow’s recent machinations would stand up in a court of law. Boris has been found guilty of playing fast and loose with parliamentary precedent.

But Bercow has spent the last three years bending the rules, conniving with Remain ultras to turn the relationship between MPs and the executive on its head.

Where’s the precedent for MPs seizing the order of parliamentary business from the Government?

Where, for that matter, is the precedent for Parliament deliberately refusing to implement the result of a referendum for which they voted and promised to honour?

Where is the precedent for those who have seized control of the House then effectively taking the Prime Minister hostage and passing a hasty law to prevent him negotiating properly on a major constitutional and foreign policy issue?

Where is the precedent for emasculating a Prime Minister but refusing to allow him to call a general election?

Has Bercow not been abusing his power, making up the rules as he goes along?

Have MPs not acted in contravention of long-established parliamentary tradition?

Can you imagine the outcry if a wealthy Leave supporter —financed, say, by rich Republicans in the U.S. — decided to do a Gina Miller and challenge the behaviour of Bercow and Remain MPs in court?

And you can also imagine the howls if judges ruled that Bercow and his cohorts had acted illegally and ordered them to vote through a No Deal Brexit without further delay.

So someone explain to me what’s the difference between that unlikely scenario and not just Boris Johnson but the referendum result itself being dragged through the courts.

Remainers have tried every grubby trick in the book to stop Brexit. But when Boris pulls a stroke of his own, they squeal ‘foul’ like spoilt children and run to the law.

You’ll find the full details of yesterday’s judgment elsewhere. But all you need to know is that the court found Johnson’s decision to prorogue Parliament to be unlawful.

In a ruling which went way beyond the wildest expectations of Remainers, Lady Hale added: ‘The effect upon the fundamentals of our democracy was extreme. No justification for taking action with such an extreme effect has been put before the court.’

Well, that’s her learned opinion. But perhaps the reason is because this should never have come before the courts in the first place. The High Court in London had earlier ruled that this was a purely ‘political’ matter, not one for judges to decide.

That was also the advice given to the Government by Attorney General Geoffrey Cox, although a Scottish court thought differently.

Lady Hale may say that the Supreme Court’s decision was nothing to do with Brexit. But the case was brought for nakedly political reasons and places unelected judges above elected politicians, including the Prime Minister.

What the political class still don’t get is that Leave wasn’t just about freeing us from the shackles of an anti-democratic, bureaucratic foreign superstate.

We were rejecting the whole rotten Establishment edifice — up to and including the self-regarding, self-important judicial class.

Inside the Bubble this is being presented as a victory for parliamentary sovereignty, for justice and for democracy.

Outside, where most of us live, we can see it for exactly what it really is: a disgraceful, but well-executed Remain stitch-up.

They’re trying to drum into our thick heads that they know best and our votes are worthless.

It isn’t justice, and it’s definitely not democracy.
By youngian
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The Usual Suspects were all there: Soubry Loo, that Green madwoman, the porky pub bore from the SNP, Chucky Umunna — celebrating like the crew of the Starship Enterprise on shore leave.

Why is this an insult? Starship Enterprise crews are top class honest professionals dedicated to public service and the truth of scientific endeavor. Sober and well behaved on shore leave as well.

Even by LJ's standards that Quadrophenia bollocks was bad.
By Andy McDandy
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Bumper pack today.

Bollocks about incendiary language: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... ester.html

Bollocks about the police, with some padding lifted from the Radio Times: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/arti ... -show.html
By Andy McDandy
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Hippies, hairies, a relatively recent sitcom, and a "joke" about kiddy fiddling kids TV presenters that makes absolutely no sense.
By youngian
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Make no mistake, eco-fascism is the new religion. Not for the first time, I find myself quoting Chesterton: When people stop believing in God they don’t believe in nothing, they believe in anything.

Basing your conclusions on scientific evidence with overwhelming peer group approval is as far away from religion as you can be. I believe GK Chesterton used to flirt with fascism. All I know is he didn't say that fatuous quote.
This quotation actually comes from page 211 of Émile Cammaerts’ book The Laughing Prophet : The Seven Virtues and G. K. Chesterton (1937) in which he quotes Chesterton as having Father Brown say, in “The Oracle of the Dog” (1923): “It’s the first effect of not believing in God that you lose your common sense.” Cammaerts then interposes his own analysis between further quotes from Father Brown: “‘It’s drowning all your old rationalism and scepticism, it’s coming in like a sea; and the name of it is superstition.’ The first effect of not believing in God is to believe in anything: ‘And a dog is an omen and a cat is a mystery.’” Note that the remark about believing in anything is outside the quotation marks — it is Cammaerts. https://thefederalist.com/2014/05/06/th ... ever-said/
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By Andy McDandy
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As Stephen Fry once said (and actually did say):

Twat: Never a borrower or lender be! Shakespeare said that!

Person slightly better read: Polonius...
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By Andy McDandy
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Hatchet job on Watson and various police officers. While the basic point of unsubstantiated allegations is a valid one, his screeching about "Why did they go after Jim Davidson and my mates af the Sun?" gives the impression that he wants to see people banged up, as long as they're the right sort of people, and the offence don't really matter.

And besides, if Davidson had turned out to be a shrub rocketeer, it'd have been as funny as fuck.
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