[Fflaps]

From what I know of 'Miss Shriver' she is childless through choice and has given the matter of whether or not to reproduce a lot of thought; one of the inspirations for the novel (novel - it's fiction and not an expression of her non-existent bitterness at being childless) was apparently thinking about how a woman who wasn't sure about having kids would feel if she did have a child, despite being ambivalent about it, and whether her feelings would have an effect on that child. Not that that matters to Tookey I suspect.

[Messianic Trees]

Christopher Tookey: It's not just the internet that's full of violent porn - so are cinemas

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Differences of culture means there will always be some country in which selling this kind of pornography will be not only permitted, but encouraged. There is more money than ever to be made out of exploiting people’s weaknesses and perversions.

However, there can be no doubt the BBFC's refusal to grant an 18 certificate to the few films it has stood up to must have made those productions less profitable and decreased their availability.

In the meantime, the flood of vicious pornography continues unabated.

Several questions need to be answered more honestly than they have been.

Should the opportunists responsible for films like this be ashamed of themselves? Yes.

Do films like this help to brutalise some of those who see them? Of course.

Does the British Board of Film Classification care? Not enough.

Do we all have to live with the social and criminal consequences of these films? Yes.

And will there be more innocent victims like Joanna Yeates?

It seems to me that the answer is dismayingly obvious.

[Lord Brett]

Way back in the mid-1990s I was on the editorial staff of a film magazine and Tookey's absurd rants in the Mail were a constant source of irritation even then.

He had long periods of semi-sanity, which leads me to the belief that he doesn't believe most of the drivel he comes out with. I imagine a diktat comes from Dacre, so he has to switch into Peter Hitchens mode every now and again.

[Tom_UK]

I'm a bit behind, but I've just read Tookey's Human Centipede article. He makes a lot of comments about the spineless BBFC etc., but then sort of defeats his own arguments by making the usual Daily Mail claim that all these torture porn films are freely available to watch uncut on the Internet anyway.

"The rise of the internet means any one country’s attempt to maintain some minimal standards of decency can be of only limited effectiveness."

I think we all know what needs to be done. Switch off the Internets NOW, before someone makes a real human centipede!!! I have been watching horror films and using the Internets a lot lately, and have subsequently been having many thoughts about making some kind of Rightminds centipede. I can't decide on the running order, but given Littlejohn's love of recycling shit, he would not be at the front.

[Messianic Trees]

I think we all know what needs to be done. Switch off the Internets NOW, before someone makes a real human centipede!!! I have been watching horror films and using the Internets a lot lately, and have subsequently been having many thoughts about making some kind of Rightminds centipede. I can't decide on the running order, but given Littlejohn's love of recycling shit, he would not be at the front.

Maybe we need a separate thread for that?

[bluebellnutter]

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they feel like characters from a soap opera with ideas above its station.

Which is totally unlike, say, Downton Abey...

[MisterMuncher]

I note the Mail's resident cineaste once more has found time to clutch his pearls and complain about the work of Park Chan-Wook, is a diatribe loosely disguised as a review of his current flick Stoker

I don't doubt this would be more effective if he'd managed to get the title of Sympathy For Mr Vengeance correct, or acknowledge it was part of a trilogy of sorts.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is the work of a professional. Apparently. It's not at all like one of those Gumtree ads from someone who can't quite spell "Playstation".

[youngian]

A film Tookey loathes is usually worth a look. Even by Mail standards his diatribes read like a timewarp.

There's also Mail swipes at TV sex and violence, while its TV page often recommend them as pick of the day in a grown up way.

Good one from the Sun was Gary Bushell urging readers to boycott lefty Channel 4 for showing 'pro IRA' anti British Ken Loach triller Hidden Agenda.

Over on the TV guide recommend film of the day was from 'pro IRA' Sky Movies- Hidden Agenda, 'exciting Troubles set thriller 4 stars.'

[The Weeping Angel]

When are Channel 4 showing Hidden Agenda youngian?

[Inquisitor]

A film Tookey loathes is usually worth a look. Even by Mail standards his diatribes read like a timewarp.

There's also Mail swipes at TV sex and violence, while its TV page often recommend them as pick of the day in a grown up way.

Good one from the Sun was Gary Bushell urging readers to boycott lefty Channel 4 for showing 'pro IRA' anti British Ken Loach triller Hidden Agenda.

Over on the TV guide recommend film of the day was from 'pro IRA' Sky Movies- Hidden Agenda, 'exciting Troubles set thriller 4 stars.'

It's case of the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing I think. One hand being the newspaper that despairs at the state of modern media, and the other being the entertainment/online department which regularly posts material that would anger the newspaper section no end - images of dead bodies, images from lads mags, pointless celebrity stories and so on.

[youngian]

When are Channel 4 showing Hidden Agenda youngian?

That was an anecdote from a few years back.

[ACG]

*plays a tiny tiny tiny violin*

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[The Weeping Angel]

oh dear how sad never mind

now if only he could get of a few others I'd be a happy bunny

[Andy McDandy]

Wow. Esta Charkham replied to him. She produced Robin of Sherwood back in the eighties. Met her on the convention circuit - very cool lady.

[lord_kobel]

So did he turn in an even more paedotastic review for Kick Ass 2 than his previous one?