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By SewerUrchin
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Waterstones wrote:Yesterday I was rewatching the mid-90's Cartoon TV show 'The Critc' from James L .Brooks one of the creators of the Simpsons on YouTube and I was struck how Jay Sherman reminded me of Tooky. :?
Only just saw this post. I love The Critic. :D
I dunno though, Jay seems more pretentious than reactionary and too easily offended. If Tookey reminds me of anyone, it's Helen Lovejoy from The Simpsons.
Anyways, I posted his review of The Inbetweeners movie on Facebook earlier. It would appear that even my more right-wing friends don't like Tookey and his pearl-clutching toss.
I've disliked that cunt ever since I read his review of Kick-Ass.
Isn't "yob culture" an oxymoron?
Clearly he's never seen Men Behaving Badly, which was doing basically the same thing (minus the swearing, I'll give it that) a good 20-odd years ago
I, for one, would like to see what he made of 'Skins' and 'Kevin and Perry Go Large'
To be honest, I'm not really a fan of The Inbetweeners myself. I don't strongly dislike it, and I don't find it offensive, I just never got into it. Although there is a bit where the thick one punches a fish to death. That was quite funny.
But anyway, I don't see its mere existance as a triumph for yob culture; the show in no way glorifies how the main characters act. The whole point is to laugh at how pathetic they are. Kind of like Peep Show: The Teenage Years.
I'm starting to wonder if Tookey is like Liz Jones, in that the Mail keeps him on, despite the fact that everyone seems to think he's an idiot (presumably for extra site hits).
 
By oboogie
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I liked The Inbetweeners series, it's over hyped now and I don't think deserves the accolades it's now attracting, but it makes me laugh. Which is all you can ask of a comedy programme - so I'd call it a success.

It's not celebrating yob-culture, all four protagonists are shown to be stupid, pathetic losers who spend their time failing to impress girls and vomiting every time they go near a drink. They're misogynistic, homophobic and thick, the point is made over and over that the only reason they are friends is because they are shunned by their wider society. I think it's success stems from recognition, I understand that many of the incidents are autobiographical from the writer's own adolescence, several incidents ring bells with me.

I've not seen the film, I expect I'll watch it when it's on TV and I'll probably enjoy it.
By mr angry manchester
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I like the Inbetweeners too, it reminds me a bit of when I was about 17, me and a few mates usually crashing and burning with girls and memories of Christamas '75 when, aged 15, I got out of my face on barley wine...

Also, everyone knows someone a bit like Jay, whose a total bullshitter and Neil whose gormless and flatulent
 
By Winegums
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mr angry manchester wrote:I like the Inbetweeners too, it reminds me a bit of when I was about 17, me and a few mates usually crashing and burning with girls and memories of Christamas '75 when, aged 15, I got out of my face on barley wine...

Also, everyone knows someone a bit like Jay, whose a total bullshitter and Neil whose gormless and flatulent
I think this was why it was such a popular show. Sure, nobody had the compound mishaps that they had, every week, but we all experienced a few events like the ones the boys in the show do. It was a welcome flash of reality compared to the "everyone's rich, beautiful, and constantly shagging" theme of some other (predominantly US) teen shows.

I really enjoyed the film. To be honest the bits he's complaining about weren't my favourites, and smacked of the 3rd season ("we're out of ideas so let's just put lots of shit and piss jokes in"), but overall it was really good.

If Tookey thinks this represents yob culture, I don't know what he'd do if he met an actual yob.
 
By oboogie
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mr angry manchester wrote:I like the Inbetweeners too, it reminds me a bit of when I was about 17, me and a few mates usually crashing and burning with girls and memories of Christamas '75 when, aged 15, I got out of my face on barley wine...

Also, everyone knows someone a bit like Jay, whose a total bullshitter and Neil whose gormless and flatulent
So how many bits of Lego can you get up your bum Angry?
 
By spoonman
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Astonishingly, two of the four lads claim to have won places at university, which is yet more eloquent evidence for the dumbing down of education.
Jesus titty-f*cking Christ! So a couple of bright boys are going along on a lads holiday and have successfully obtained the grades needed to go to university? By that rationale Simon should become Prime Minister when he reaches his mid-40's!

I've never actually seen the Inbetweeners on TV but went to the cinema to see it - the screen showing it was a full house on a Monday night, normally the local cinema can barely pull in many on that night of the week, and I was told that the showings on Friday and Saturday night were sold out as well. By Tookey's reckoning, my wee small town is going to hell in a handcart!
 
By bluebellnutter
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So an entirely fictionalised story is being used as some sort of factual evidence of something?

BTW, I hear Virgil Tracy hated the EDL and Harry Potter just loved low house prices.
By mr angry manchester
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And Tubbs of The League of Gentlemen is an asylum seeker...

BTW, never tried lego up the bottom, but I can get a full tube of smarties in my mouth all in one go and eat 'em all!! :D
By Giant f*cking Sudoku
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oboogie wrote:...and Paddington was an indicator of the flood of illegal immigration from Darkest Peru.

Still at least he kept bacon in his suitcase so at least he wasn't, y'know, one of THOSE people.
Hahahaha :lol:
By Tom_UK
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Reviewer, you do realise the film is fiction, and not a documentary, don't you? I ask because the following sentence: "Astonishingly, two of the four lads claim to have won places at university, which is yet more eloquent evidence for the dumbing down of education." would suggest you think otherwise. Do you also think Harry Potter leaving Hogwarts at just the age of 17 raises concerns about teenagers leaving school too early? Similarly, your comment that the film, "delivers to a subnormal target audience" could be perceived as ironic when the website you are writing for contains links to articles on Big Brother, the Kardashians and Katie Price. Outstanding journalism.

- Thomas McDonald, Sutton Coldfield, 26/8/2011 22:13
Tookey pwned.
 
By ezinra
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I haven't seen the film or read the book, but Tookey's two-star review of We need to talk about Kevin strikes me as petty and full of prejudice. Firstly he criticises an "infant" actor for being "one-dimensional"; then he comes up with this:
Nor is there the slightest explanation for Kevin’s extraordinarily evil personality. He is easily the most fascinating presence in the movie, but the film-makers are interested in him only insofar as he affects his mother.

This turns it into a hard-line feminist parable. Miss Shriver poses the question: what are successful career women to do when they give birth to the kind of insensitive, stroppy, aggressive male that they have loathed since their own childhood?
Tookey doesn't seem to know what a parable is. Is there anything 'hard-line' about the story? Would a Tookey-friendly doormat-type woman be any better at parenting Kevin?
It is a query that will strike most people, mothers of boys especially, as more than faintly ridiculous. Kevin is a fantastical creation who bears little or no relation to the vast majority of real boys.
Isn't that the point? I mean, the kids in Outnumbered are hardly typical either, but they're just about believable enough to get us thinking: how would we cope?
It is no surprise that Miss Shriver herself is childless.
Pure misogyny.
You have only to compare this with other ‘bad seed’ films, such as Rosemary’s Baby, The Omen and Orphan, to appreciate the movie’s shortcomings as regards pace, storytelling and ability to suspend the audience’s disbelief. This is cheap grand guignol posing as a valuable insight into the male psyche.
I really enjoyed Ratcatcher and Morvern Callar, Lynne Ramsay's two previous films, although they are slow-moving. That last line of Tookey's sounds very unlike Ramsay, who is a discreet director with a slightly surreal touch. We shall see.
 
By bluebellnutter
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Tookey wrote:It is no surprise that Miss Shriver herself is childless.
WTF? That has no relevance to the film whatsoever, it's just spiteful smearing. I know we expect that of the Mail but frigging nora.
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