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Maureen Messent (Birmingham Mail)

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:39 pm
by Abernathy
Okay, old Maureen isn't actually a Daily Mail columnist (she's a piss-poor hack on a regional daily), but she easily could be.

Today, she has been holding forth on muslims, and especially muslims that are evil terrorists. For new readers, Maureen considers herself to have an exclusive inside track on muslims because she lives in an area where quite a lot of muslims live and has some muslim neighbours. She has, of course, no such inside track whatsoever.

Why aren’t the lunatic preachers, the mosque mutineers, the passive old imams all rounded up in times of terrorism and grilled until they can prove they are not implicated in treason?
So far, so tolerant. Read more from Mad Mo here :

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/ne ... cs-4034031

Re: Maureen Messent (Birmingham Mail)

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:45 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Another problem, unnoticed at the time of high immigration but still prevailing, is that newcomers settled amid their own. Whole roads are occupied by families whose forbears (sic) are from the same villages and towns “back home”, and they brought fierce local traditions in their luggage.

If a male child goes astray here, everyone closes ranks. Evil festers through lack of outside air and lack of links to the white host community.
Nice.

And it's 'forebears'.

Re: Maureen Messent (Birmingham Mail)

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:52 pm
by Inquisitor
An opinion piece of two-halves there.

Re: Maureen Messent (Birmingham Mail)

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:55 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
No turn left unstoned.
In the last war, men and women, even if they were British by birth, who might have allegiance to Germany were all interned. Simple as that.

Why aren’t the lunatic preachers, the mosque mutineers, the passive old imams all rounded up in times of terrorism and grilled until they can prove they are not implicated in treason?
Because you have to have some suspicion of guilt, other than mere racism, before you arrest and 'grill' people? Just a guess.

It's pretty nasty stuff.

Has it been reported?

Re: Maureen Messent (Birmingham Mail)

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:57 pm
by Abernathy
No. Perhaps we should?

Re: Maureen Messent (Birmingham Mail)

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 6:56 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Looks pretty close to hate speech to me.

Re: Maureen Messent (Birmingham Mail)

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 7:18 pm
by Bones McCoy
Malcolm Armsteen wrote:No turn left unstoned.
In the last war, men and women, even if they were British by birth, who might have allegiance to Germany were all interned. Simple as that.

Why aren’t the lunatic preachers, the mosque mutineers, the passive old imams all rounded up in times of terrorism and grilled until they can prove they are not implicated in treason?
Because you have to have some suspicion of guilt, other than mere racism, before you arrest and 'grill' people? Just a guess.

It's pretty nasty stuff.

Has it been reported?
She probably thinks she's being Churchillian.

Re: Maureen Messent (Birmingham Mail)

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 9:18 pm
by Andy McDandy
It's the old 'during the war...' defence. We did it in the war and we won that. Thus it must be a good idea. See also Cameron last year or so, talking about tearing up rules and regulations because that's what we did in the war. Problem was, we didn't.

Forget Godwin in it's current form, it should really be extended to cover any egregious reference to anything WW2 related.

Re: Maureen Messent (Birmingham Mail)

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 9:34 pm
by davidjay
The notion that all are innocent until proved guilty is indeed gentlemanly, almost sporting, but when maniacs are toting guns and bombs, giving them the benefit of the doubt is suicidal.
To hold a tranche of British society responsible for the sins of its pariahs is unreasonable and cruel.
Not only is she horrible (as Abernathy said, she's considered herself the oracle on all things Muslim for years and absolutely abhors working-class whites) but she's arguing against herself.

Re: Maureen Messent (Birmingham Mail)

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:40 pm
by davidjay
Maureen doesn't like women either. Well, not the sort she would no doubt call silly gels.

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Re: Maureen Messent (Birmingham Mail)

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:54 pm
by Abernathy
Indeed.
We sell women short if we believe they “have a right” to dress, drink and behave like hookers, then equal right to scream like banshees when a man makes assumptions – that implies women lack the intelligence to understand consequence of action.

Re: Maureen Messent (Birmingham Mail)

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:39 pm
by Andy McDandy
She said 'End of'. Worracunt.

Re: Maureen Messent (Birmingham Mail)

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:12 pm
by spoonman
davidjay wrote:
The notion that all are innocent until proved guilty is indeed gentlemanly, almost sporting, but when maniacs are toting guns and bombs, giving them the benefit of the doubt is suicidal.
To hold a tranche of British society responsible for the sins of its pariahs is unreasonable and cruel.
Not only is she horrible (as Abernathy said, she's considered herself the oracle on all things Muslim for years and absolutely abhors working-class whites) but she's arguing against herself.
Regarding the first quote - I can only assume she is not familiar with the disaster that was internment in Northern Ireland in the early 70's. Let alone any further argument as to why her suggestion is a bad idea.

Re: Maureen Messent (Birmingham Mail)

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:19 pm
by davidjay
spoonman wrote:
davidjay wrote:
The notion that all are innocent until proved guilty is indeed gentlemanly, almost sporting, but when maniacs are toting guns and bombs, giving them the benefit of the doubt is suicidal.
To hold a tranche of British society responsible for the sins of its pariahs is unreasonable and cruel.
Not only is she horrible (as Abernathy said, she's considered herself the oracle on all things Muslim for years and absolutely abhors working-class whites) but she's arguing against herself.
Regarding the first quote - I can only assume she is not familiar with the disaster that was internment in Northern Ireland in the early 70's. Let alone any further argument as to why her suggestion is a bad idea.

She's Irish herself, and I'm as certain as can be that she took part in Troops Out marches in the eighties (not a popular move in Birmingham back then), so she'll know about internment, which makes her piece all the dafter.

Re: Maureen Messent (Birmingham Mail)

Posted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:23 pm
by spoonman
davidjay wrote: She's Irish herself, and I'm as certain as can be that she took part in Troops Out marches in the eighties (not a popular move in Birmingham back then), so she'll know about internment, which makes her piece all the dafter.
Jaysus.
You can add the Birmingham six to that as well then.