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By Kreuzberger
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"Woke", the mot du jour of the 50-something, white, viagra dependent miserati. There is little quite as cringe-worthy as a "commentator" swimming against the tide of either time or his dwindling audience.
By MisterMuncher
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It acquires a certain extra level of nuance in it's nastiness when you recall that "woke" in that sense is originally a specifically black coinage.

Same time: it's just another PeeCee, SJW, Do-gooder. An inability to understand empathy or altruism. See also that wondrous phrase "virtue signaling". Doesn't it make your skin fucking crawl? The utter selfishness and social retardation of a mindset that can only see doing and saying *the fucking RIGHT THING* as a self-centered PR move. What the fuck does that say about the person using it? That anything decent they do is mere performance, and they'd cheerfully step on your face for a flim.
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By MisterMuncher
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youngian wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:00 pm
All royals get taken down a peg for being annoying at some point but I’m still at a loss as to what Meghan Markle has done wrong. As posted on another thread the Vogue stuff is quite traditional for royals.

Apart from the obvious, the bile directed at Kate Middleton (and there was no small amount, most from the same people now declaring her the most fragrant of English roses relative to that Yank bitch...) had lost traction for the most part, so they were looking for a target anyway. That Meghan has so much more "wrong" with her is just giving them more to work with.

These are broken, fucked up people. They've not progressed beyond a child's understanding of what Royalty is, and can't understand it when their dolls won't stay where they put them.
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By Safe_Timber_Man
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The sins of others

THE Archbishop of Canterbury is in India, lying on the floor and grovelling.

Justin Welby lay flat out to apologise for the massacre of Indians by British troops at ­Amritsar in 1919.

“I am deeply ashamed,” he told his hosts.

Why? Were you there, mate?

If so it would be right to apologise – and then face a prison sentence, frankly.

But you weren’t there, were you?

Apologising for the sins of others is just another example of virtue-signalling.

Speaker silence, at last

AT last the toxic little hobgoblin John Bercow is to stand down.

The Speaker of the House of Commons will not be fighting his seat at the next election.

This may well be because the Tories have announced they will stand against him. And they’d win.

He has been a disgrace to his office. Gobby, pompous, egotistical and, worst of all, blatantly partisan.

Pray God soon we will never have to hear from him again.

Well rid of evil Mugabe

WELL, at least Robert Mugabe won’t be murdering more folk any time soon.

The decrepit old Marxist dictator of Zimbabwe has popped his clogs at last. At the ripe old age of 95.

I was just starting out as a journo when he took power, back in 1980.

I asked his predecessor, Ian Smith, how he thought Mugabe would manage the country.

“He will cause mass starvation and kill all of his political opponents,” Smith replied.

Not a bad call, really.

But Mugabe is still revered in Africa for sticking it to whitey.

ROD LIDDLE The Brexit we voted for won’t happen because of liberal elite blocking it

“WE can’t leave with No Deal because Parliament won’t let us. So Boris will do last-minute agreement. But Nigel won’t like it. So Tories will go into next election without his backing. And lose to a Lib Dem-Labour-SNP coalition. Who will reject deal. There’ll be a second referendum. Which Remainers will rig . . .”

Wouldn’t it be lovely to wake up one morning and not hear some deranged politician shrieking about Brexit? Remainer or Leaver.

The same old issues every time. The whining. The complaining from both sides (hilariously) about a lack of democracy.

The snarled fury. The endless bloody pontificating.

It’s been more than three years and still nobody knows what the hell Labour’s policy is.

Get a deal from Brussels and then vote against it, so far as I can discern.

God only knows what sort of drugs old man Steptoe and his magic band of brothers are on.

But then I’m not too sure what BoJo is up to either, and this is a problem.

My guess is that if our Prime Minister wrestles some kind of deal from Brussels, the vast majority of the country will heave an enormous sigh of relief.

We can all get on with our lives. Boris can busy himself with building very large bridges across the Irish Sea. Whatever deal he gets, it won’t be a proper Brexit.

I have always said, right from day one, that our liberal establishment would never let us leave.

And the sort of deal Boris is inching towards now will not be what we might call a full Brexit.

It will involve, at the least, selling out the Northern Irish. Over the blessed “backstop”. And here’s the problem for Johnson.

If he does that there will still be a large contingent of people very unhappy indeed — and not just the DUP.

It means he won’t be able to strike a meaningful deal with Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party.

And that, in turn, means the ­Conservative Party will go into the next election, which is coming very soon, with only a slender hope of victory.

The Brexit Party is likely to take enough votes from the Tories to ensure they do not win.

That would mean — at best — a hung parliament. And you can bet some sort of coalition deal will be struck between Labour, the Lib Dems and the SNP.

This would result in a rejection of any deal. And almost certainly a second ­referendum on whether we should leave or not.

Except that the choices on the ballot paper next time will be gerrymandered to ensure Remain wins (by splitting the Leave vote).

But what else is Boris to do?

We can’t leave with No Deal — the best option of those available right now — because ­Parliament won’t let him. His hands are tied.

He started well in the job, did old BoJo. But things have fallen apart in the past two weeks.

He hasn’t helped himself by estranging the Remainers in his party by kicking them out.

Even if we won’t miss them for a fraction of a nanosecond.

And he should have been in Brussels from day one, negotiating.

If only to show the British public the sheer bloody-minded intransigence and spite of the European Union.

Still, if he manages to wrench some sort of deal now, at the last moment, I’d be tempted to be in favour of it.

Not because it’s what I voted for. But because it’s probably the least worst of all available options.

And if he then loses an election and the present Opposition revokes the deal, all hell will break loose.

Yes, whatever way you look at it, this business is going to drag on and on. Until we’re all bored into stupefaction.
By Malcolm Armsteen
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There are only nine circles of the inferno, but the eighth (frauds) contains ten pits. The tenth pit is reserved for falsifiers, counterfeiters and liars. They are condemned to endure forever consumptive or other diseases such as leprosy and painful rashes.

Roddle also qualifies for the Seventh Level (violence).
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By MisterMuncher
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Being a pragmatic sort of chap, I'd settle for a temporal punishment.

Perhaps someone could be assigned to repeat his "highlights" to everyone he meets. It should ensure he has the company he deserves, and the occasional good solid boot in the balls.
By Safe_Timber_Man
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As with all Rod Liddle columns, this is just him flinging childish insults at people.

The language of a man who struggles to articulate himself without resorting to playground abuse:

liberal-lefty Remoaners
grand- standing, virtue-signalling dingbat
wholly pointless country of Luxembourg
pompous, jumped-up little puffin
gargantuan oaf
listen to their illiterate gibberish
smug, bearded, middle-class layabout
deranged Remainers

The end of the UK and other Remainer lies

BREXIT will mean the break-up of the UK, the deranged Remainers keep telling us.

The Scots will have another referendum and this time vote to escape from the UK.

Well, we’re about as close to Brexit as we’ll ever be. And the latest opinion poll from north of the border?

The lowest number in favour of independence since Robert the Bruce was talking to spiders 700 years ago.

Fewer than one in three now want to leave the UK. Another Remainer lie.

Our middle-class twits

MODERN English families – don’t you just love em?

Take Matt Allen, his missus Adele and their three children.

Matt won’t get a full-time job because it would not fit right with his psyche, he says.

The kids are allowed to do what they want, whenever they want.

I wonder what the cost of this smug, bearded, middle-class layabout is to society now – and what it will be when his brats are grown up and running wild?

Or how about Jake England-Johns and his ludicrous partner Hobbit Humphrey? They’re not revealing the gender of their baby to anyone so as not to gender stereotype it.


Only here for a couple of days

THE German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, visited Poland earlier this month. I can exclusively reveal the following conversation took place at the Polish immigration desk:
“Angela Merkel.”
“Nein, I’m only here for a couple of days.”

You're spot on Mr Mayor

POLITICAL hero of the week is the mayor of a very small Belgian coastal town, Middelkerke.

That gargantuan oaf Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, had just returned from a visit to Belgium. He complained that towns in the Flemish part of the country weren’t keen on French speakers. (Quite rightly, really.) He said he’d ordered a steak in French and they refused to understand him.

Cue local mayor Jean-Marie Dedecker: “I think Juncker was drunk when he came here and ordered his steak. He was probably unintelligible to the shopkeeper.”

Sounds about right. Well said, mate.

Keep meeting useless EU leaders, BoJo

BORIS Johnson should keep meeting the leaders of EU countries, especially the most useless of them.

Such as Xavier Bettel, from the wholly pointless country of Luxembourg, a place the size of Wiltshire.

Bettel – another pompous, jumped-up little puffin – was rude and spiteful to our Prime Minister.

And every time something like that happens, back home our determination to get the hell out of this woeful organisation strengthens.

Bono's not so hindU2

U2, the world’s most pompous rock band, have announced their first gig in India, this December.

You might have thought the poor bloody Indians had enough on their plates without Bono paying them a visit.

Anyway, Bono says he feels empathy with them because he is Irish. And like Indians, the Irish had suffered from Bruttish Uppression.

Listen, you grand- standing, virtue-signalling dingbat. Just play your awful songs and get out of town. Then go count your money in your low-tax overseas bank account.

Spare us all the politicising.

And that boring song, the one where you keep complaining that you still haven’t found what you’re looking for? It’s in the garage, behind the lawnmower.

Here he manages to use the word "unelected" 6 times in a single piece as he slags off Judges at the Supreme Court and accuses them of being Remainers. He isn't the only one who now seems to have a problem with judges being "unelected". It seems to be a bit of a thing among Brexiters at the moment:

If Brexit is foiled by unelected judges our democracy will be crippled

SO, Brexit is now in the hands of 11 unelected judges in the Supreme Court, all of them pretty much Remainers.

We should find out what their royal holinesses, or whatever the hell you’re meant to call them, decide by Monday. I wouldn’t be too hopeful, frankly.

Since we voted to leave the European Union the provisional wing of the Remain movement has used every undemocratic trick in the book to stop it happening.

First they used unelected judges to ensure Parliament has the final say on whether we Leave or not, rather than you. They’ve also used the unelected House of Lords to try to block Brexit.

And they have now dragged the Government into court three times — all to thwart a decision you made, in good faith, believing it would be seen through, back in June 2016.

Now we have an independent judiciary. Everyone is very proud of that.

Our courts are separate from the Government and that is as it should be.

We are also not meant to criticise our judges, although that never stopped the liberal lefties when they were moaning about judges making rotten decisions.

Indeed, liberal-lefty Remoaners have some very strange allies these days.

Unelected, public-school educated judges. Former Conservative Prime Ministers, such as the hopeless John Major. And the Speaker of the House of Commons, another Conservative, John Bercow. Oh, and the unelected bureaucrats of the European Union.

They’ve suddenly decided they love them, too.

But while our judges may well be independent from the Government and party allegiance (up to a point), it does not mean they are not biased. Like all of us, they have political views. And it is ludicrous to suggest those views never intrude into the decisions they make.

Of course they do. All the time, I would suggest.

The case currently being heard charges the Prime Minister with lying to the Queen about the suspension of Parliament. If these judges decided everything purely on a matter of law, then two separate courts — within weeks of each other — wouldn’t have come to completely opposite views about the case.

Our High Court decided it was all a political matter and not for judges to intervene. The Scottish judges decided otherwise. So now the whole thing rests with those 11 eminent “justices” in the Supreme Court.

Right from day one, the Battle for Brexit has been between the people and the liberal, pro-Remain establishment. By “establishment”, I mean the BBC, for example — massively in favour of Remain.

Also big business, the House of Commons (more than six to one in favour of Remain), the universities (93 per cent in favour of Remain) and, of course, judges and the courts — pro-Remain by an estimated 90 per cent.

It has always been an uneven battle. It has always been a battle the people were going to lose, I fear to say. As I wrote here once before — peasants’ revolts rarely work out well here for the peasants.

If the judges rule against Boris Johnson, it will be just about the final nail in Brexit’s coffin. And if that is the case, who of us will go to the polling booths in future believing our views will be respected?

It would be a crippling blow not just for Brexit, but for our democracy.
By youngian
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If the judges rule against Boris Johnson, it will be just about the final nail in Brexit’s coffin. And if that is the case, who of us will go to the polling booths in future believing our views will be respected?

Well let’s hope so Rod. Novel early excuse for losing a referendum on the deal; Leavers like me will refuse to vote because the elites won’t implement our decision anyway.

Wtf is that “Our middle-class twits” article about and who are the people he mentions?
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