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By davidjay
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To make it to the top of the golf world (and most sports for that matter), children need to be encouraged/pushed from the age of 4/5 upwards - yet there are ways and means without resorting to physically hurting the children - a sad story, but I hope the children enjoy and keep up their golf practice.
- Darren, Southampton, 25/1/2012 12:52
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As long as they still enjoy golf, that's the main thing. Cunt.
 
By Messianic Trees
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Labour MP: Smacking ban led to riots because parents fear children will be taken away if they discipline them

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1kpsyTePv" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Judging from the comments, the Mailites would appear to love the thought of being able to smack kids far more than they hate Labour. Top-rated:
Spot on David Lammy. Nice to see an MP occasionally having the guts to say something that contradicts the politically correct social marxists who are incapable of seeing the difference between discipline and abuse. Children are potential little monsters unless they are given rules, set limits and have the threat of punishment when they seriously step outside them. It's called tough love and they will be better adults for it. Abuse is indefensible and criminal but occasional discipline is sometimes a necessity.
- had-enough, London, 29/1/2012 0:41
 
By Timbo
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It's astonishing to see the number of people who think Labour banned all forms of corporal punishment. They seem to have a mental blindspot around the time that Tony ZaNu-Bliar quashed an attempt to do so.
 
By Messianic Trees
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Once again I'm surprised that Sonia Poulton is allowed to write for the Mail:

Hitting a child harder will not stop riots, Mr. Lammy, but it may cause them

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... z1kxnTqkfL" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
What is needed now is a thorough understanding of what led to the riots, not an MP issuing tabloid-friendly soundbytes.

For the truth is when we reduce complex social issues in such simplistic ways, no-one benefits. Least of all the people David Lammy purports to represent.
 
By Messianic Trees
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The angry generation: Lack of parental discipline is blamed for aggressive and anti-social children

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1nbmfwYJ8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Funny that when our fathers used to use their leather belt to give us a hiding and schools used the cane, kids were much less mouthy and violent. Most were respectful of their elders. Strange that now parents are no longer allowed to smack their kids and schools are no longer allowed to cane the kids, we have gangs of yobs running around mouthing it off and being violent and verbally and even physically abusing everyone who dares to even speak to them. The first words that come out of their mouths is "What you gonna do about it?" The law protects them and they know it and use it to their advantage to get away with anything. I am 52 and a Security guard in a shopping mall so I know what I'm talking about. My dad was strict and used a belt and a slipper quite regularly but I never strayed off the straight and narrow. At first it was because I was scared of what he'd do to me and eventually it just became habit to stay on the right side of the law.
- Dave, Maidstone, 27/2/2012 1:38
"Lastly, anecdotal evidence such as "I was smacked and I'm ok" is not a secure foundation to a debate. - Me, Here, not There, 27/2/2012 07:46" == it's people like you who have caused this problem, with your 'smacking is violence' nonsense. If you don't know the difference between a smack given to a naughty child who has over-stepped the boundaries and REAL viloence,it is YOU who has the problem. Look at society now and look back 30 years. That is the result of YOUR policies being forced upon the decent people of this country. Admit it, YOU WERE WRONG!!!
- Andy, Warrington , 27/2/2012 8:05
This is a result of the demise of the family of mummy, daddy and 2.4 children, Dad went out to work Mum stayed at home and they saved for a house and car and foreign holidays. Fathers controlled the discipline and mothers, their well-being. Now we have towns full of single mothers unable to discipline their children who have been indoctrinated to see single parentage as compulsory and who have been brought up to include a series of mother's boyfriends, to whom they say "You can't tell me what to do. Your'e not my father"
- Purely Neutral Observer, Middle England, 27/2/2012 7:53
It is very strange how the condition named ADHD has blossomed since the abolition of corporal punishment. . In my day all forms of ADHD were cured with a short visit to the headmaster.
- Tristram., Wellingborough., 27/2/2012 7:43
I come from a generation where the slipper and the cane were always a discipline option both at home and at school, and I can testify that such discipline WORKS superbly at keeping children in check. . I know I would have been dreadful if corporal punishment had been outlawed. . To all those "do-gooder" PC idiots out there: it does NOT brutalise or make people worse --- if it did, all of our grandparents would all be thugs.
- Brian., Wellingborough., 27/2/2012 7:38
I smacked my child when she was young, with plenty of love in between. She is now a lovely young lady, a doctor who works hard and knows discipline.
- Toto Kubwa, Cyprus, 27/2/2012 6:02
 
By ezinra
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I can only conclude that none of those commenters have left their house since 1959.

My paternal grandfather had a hard life. In one way or another, he was at war for two decades. Then he had his livelihood and all his possessions taken away, and he lived in unhappy exile until he died. He was also vicious with the strap. My father was terrified of him. My father's only male role model was a negative one: he grew up wanting to be nothing like his dad. Yet he admired him, too, not just for all that he'd survived, but also for the way he was able to wield power in the household and especially over women.

My father is a study in repressed anger.

I don't believe this is a coincidence.
By storygirl
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Messianic Trees wrote:The angry generation: Lack of parental discipline is blamed for aggressive and anti-social children

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1nbmfwYJ8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Funny that when our fathers used to use their leather belt to give us a hiding and schools used the cane, kids were much less mouthy and violent. Most were respectful of their elders. Strange that now parents are no longer allowed to smack their kids and schools are no longer allowed to cane the kids, we have gangs of yobs running around mouthing it off and being violent and verbally and even physically abusing everyone who dares to even speak to them. The first words that come out of their mouths is "What you gonna do about it?" The law protects them and they know it and use it to their advantage to get away with anything. I am 52 and a Security guard in a shopping mall so I know what I'm talking about. My dad was strict and used a belt and a slipper quite regularly but I never strayed off the straight and narrow. At first it was because I was scared of what he'd do to me and eventually it just became habit to stay on the right side of the law.
- Dave, Maidstone, 27/2/2012 1:38
"Lastly, anecdotal evidence such as "I was smacked and I'm ok" is not a secure foundation to a debate. - Me, Here, not There, 27/2/2012 07:46" == it's people like you who have caused this problem, with your 'smacking is violence' nonsense. If you don't know the difference between a smack given to a naughty child who has over-stepped the boundaries and REAL viloence,it is YOU who has the problem. Look at society now and look back 30 years. That is the result of YOUR policies being forced upon the decent people of this country. Admit it, YOU WERE WRONG!!!
- Andy, Warrington , 27/2/2012 8:05
This is a result of the demise of the family of mummy, daddy and 2.4 children, Dad went out to work Mum stayed at home and they saved for a house and car and foreign holidays. Fathers controlled the discipline and mothers, their well-being. Now we have towns full of single mothers unable to discipline their children who have been indoctrinated to see single parentage as compulsory and who have been brought up to include a series of mother's boyfriends, to whom they say "You can't tell me what to do. Your'e not my father"
- Purely Neutral Observer, Middle England, 27/2/2012 7:53
It is very strange how the condition named ADHD has blossomed since the abolition of corporal punishment. . In my day all forms of ADHD were cured with a short visit to the headmaster.
- Tristram., Wellingborough., 27/2/2012 7:43
I come from a generation where the slipper and the cane were always a discipline option both at home and at school, and I can testify that such discipline WORKS superbly at keeping children in check. . I know I would have been dreadful if corporal punishment had been outlawed. . To all those "do-gooder" PC idiots out there: it does NOT brutalise or make people worse --- if it did, all of our grandparents would all be thugs.
- Brian., Wellingborough., 27/2/2012 7:38
I smacked my child when she was young, with plenty of love in between. She is now a lovely young lady, a doctor who works hard and knows discipline.
- Toto Kubwa, Cyprus, 27/2/2012 6:02
One simple question, if beatings worked how come all these twunts needed more than one?
 
By Timbo
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Truly bizarre one today. I have no idea what to make of this, but to me it cries "PR stunt by niche gay porn company":

Father offers man who slept with his underage daughter jail time for statutory rape... or a 'brutal spanking' (guess which one he chooses?)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... spanking--" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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good for him. One thing about the Yanks, that lad took his spanking and thats that. In this country he'd have pressed assault charges and all sorts. We've got little honour code here anymore.
- Gareth, Wales, 21/6/2012 19:24
That is nothing. When I was at primary boarding school in the 60's we would regularly get 6 of the best with a cane or worse still a hair brush or cricket bat. It left our backsides black with bruises. In total I got beaten three times over a five year but some boys were getting that every term. Did we begrudge it? Not a bit of it. It add to the fun of it all.
- John, Guildford, 21/6/2012 19:27
Young Bradley, The Heartland of USA, spanking is not child abuse! When I got out of line, I was spanked with a belt and when I got older I understood why. It's because of irresponsible parents that children are worse today than years ago!
- hawkeye4077, USA, 21/6/2012 1:37
Then they get hilarious:
It's pretty disturbing for an adult straight male to pull another man's shorts down and spank his bare ass. Bet he's friend's with the Mensa candidate that shot his daughter's laptop because she was posting obnoxious rubbish on Facebook!
- la bella f, shoe department, 21/6/2012 1:09
I think he's a pervert. The Dad.
- Miller, Huffington, UK, 21/6/2012 17:40
You savage, I'll spank you on your bare bottom and that will make up for what you did to my (wink) daughter. Nice shorts, I love them around your thighs.
- rb, tampa usa, 21/6/2012 1:45
By shyamz
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I'm with you completely on this, if you knew a guy slept with your underage daughter, would you consider a spanking an adequate punishment and give him that as an option instead if arrest?

I call bullshit.
 
By Timbo
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#237592
It's baaaaaack...:

Revealed: Father and victim in 'brutal spanking' punishment video identified
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1yWwALHpU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Comment of the week nominee:
If I could find a man to treat me like that I'd marry him.
- Mr F, Edinburgh, 22/6/2012 12:10
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